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On “Morning Joe,” Brzezinski Spins His Remarks on Israel

September 25, 2009

Appearing on Morning Joe yesterday, former Carter national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski reacted to the outrage sparked by comments he had made earlier this week to the Daily Beast. Those remarks were widely interpreted as a call on President Obama to shoot down Israeli jets if they were to fly over Iraq en route to attacking Iran‘s nuclear-weapons facilities.

Dr. Brzezinski claimed that his remarks had been misinterpreted:

“I simply said that if the Israelis violated our [air] space, there could be an incident — and I said it’s very much to be avoided — that could produce a [perception of] collusion. Because I don’t assume that we would simply let the Israelis use our airspace for an attack for which we would then be blamed by the Iranians.”

Such a sequence of events, he explained, would inevitably lead to “Iranian retaliation” on American targets in the Middle East.

Joe Scarborough’s host on Morning Joe, Mika Brzezinski, is Dr. Brzezinski’s daughter. Instead of behaving like a journalist and asking a probing question or two, she jumped swiftly to her father’s defense, saying that his comments had caused “confusion” and had been “mischaracterized.”

If that is true, the conservative blogosphere owes Dr. Brzezinski an apology. So, let’s look at the exchange at the root of this week’s controversy:

DAILY BEAST: How aggressive can Obama be in insisting to the Israelis that a military strike might be in America’s worst interest?

BRZEZINSKI: We are not exactly impotent little babies. They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch?

DAILY BEAST: What if they fly over anyway? How aggressive can Obama be in insisting to the Israelis that a military strike might be in America’s worst interest?

BRZEZINSKI: Well, we have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren’t just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront themThey have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this, but it could be a Liberty in reverse.

It doesn’t get much clearer or more threatening than that, does it?

Next time Zbigniew Brzezinski appears on Morning Joe, perhaps Joe Scarborough can ask his co-host Mika to do something else while he asks her “dad” some tough questions. Who knows, perhaps doing some actual journalism will boost MSNBC’s horrific ratings.

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43 Comments
  1. jbtrevor permalink
    September 25, 2009 8:12 am

    Assuming of course that in a dog fight, the Israeli pilot would lose…

    • September 25, 2009 4:21 pm

      JB I guess now you are saying it is all right for the Israelies to disrespect us and they got better pilots than we have. I never thought I would have to say anything like this, but maybe you are in the wrong country. If Israel violates our protected airspace they should be shot down. Any country that allows an enfriengement upon their airspace is a weak and ineffective country that anyone would continue to violate.

      • jbtrevor permalink
        September 25, 2009 4:45 pm

        Kenneth, Wrong guess…but then I’m not surprised – Leftist guess wrong all the time.

        Also you said:
        “Any country that allows an enfriengement upon their airspace is a weak and ineffective country that anyone would continue to violate.”

        Agree. That’s one of the main reasons we invaded Iraq…Saddam was consistently violating the protected air space in the no-fly zone as outlined in the agreement after gulf war I.
        Julie

        • September 25, 2009 5:19 pm

          JB. That what it looked like to me. I was not trying to offend you. I am glad you brought up Iraq. That’s another fine mess the republicans have made for us. They created that mess with a bunch of lies and a program of deceit. You cannot deny that. Also they started programs to deny U>S> citizens their constitutional rights in the name of fighting terrorism, when they were the real terrorists. Not only was that an illegal war on trumped up charges, it is one of the major reasons the deficent is were it is. I am not defending the late Suddam, but he went into so-called Gulf 1 believing he had permission from Bush 1. I will never forget when Bush Jr. said that Suddam had the nerve to put hit out on his father. Wonder if that is the real reason he took us into war in Iraq and made us look like Nazis to the rest of the world.

          • jbtrevor permalink
            September 25, 2009 5:48 pm

            Man, the 60’s were good for you eh Kenneth?

            You are not worth my time…
            Julie

            • September 25, 2009 8:15 pm

              JB. I had to laugh because I was thinking the same thing. You got to be another crazy crank. No the 60’s were not good to me. I was on the front lines fighting for civil rights. What were you doing? Playing chatty kathy?

          • theblanque permalink
            September 25, 2009 8:20 pm

            Probably making civil rights possible, as opposed to what an anti-semite like you was doing–posing.

          • Joseph Cottrell permalink
            September 26, 2009 3:35 am

            WOW – Carter’s Dept. of Education has been pretty good for you, too, hasn’t it? Don’t often see such an amazing collection of misspellings and bad grammar. The sixties were nothing to you, you faker – you weren’t even born then. Just like all those twentysomething Viet Nam vets begging for money on freeway off-ramps.

  2. Elaine permalink
    September 25, 2009 8:27 am

    Typical leftwing response-“mischaracterized”, “confused”, “misinterpreted”.

    Does lying just come natural to these people?

    • carterthewriter permalink
      September 25, 2009 8:47 am

      That seems to be their stock reply while forgetting what they’ve said almost immediately after the utterence falls from their lips. Then they wonder why no one respects them.

    • theblanque permalink
      September 25, 2009 8:04 pm

      Does lying just come natural to these people?

      Yes.

  3. Nemesis permalink
    September 25, 2009 9:42 am

    There is an ancient promise given to Abraham and the infant jewish nation by GOD: “I will bless those that bless you and curse those that curse you.” Of all the things that would cause GOD to remove his hand of blessing from the United States, attacking IDF planes would be it.

    • LanceThruster permalink
      September 25, 2009 11:31 am

      Yeah, just what I want directing our foreign policy; the primitive mystical ramblings of some desert tribe claiming to be stenographers for god.

      “God is my copilot. But as a navigator he sucks.”

      • theblanque permalink
        September 25, 2009 8:07 pm

        Ah, so your antisemitism isn’t a function of your Leftism, but of your atheism.

        Not altogether surprising.

        • Swemson permalink
          September 25, 2009 9:25 pm

          Huh ????

          Granted that he’s lower than whale poop, but how does anti-semitism come from atheism ?

    • September 25, 2009 4:23 pm

      Nenmisis, thats a bunch of mumbo-jumbo. When are you people gonna stop being fools?

      • theblanque permalink
        September 25, 2009 8:08 pm

        Thus said the idiot, as the house burned down around him.

  4. Swemson permalink
    September 25, 2009 11:08 am

    Since when is it OUR airspace ?

    Aren’t we just policing Iraqi airspace ?

    Would Barry have the stones to shoot down an Israeli warplane ?

    Since his one and only concern is staying in power, I suspect not.

  5. LanceThruster permalink
    September 25, 2009 11:12 am

    Why shouldn’t Israel feel compelled to respect Iraqi air space unless the US is just a vassal state, there to follow the directives of the Israelis?

    All Israel needs to understand is, “If you don’t want no sh*t, don’t start no sh*t.”

    Nothing to be confused about that, is there?

    • theblanque permalink
      September 25, 2009 8:10 pm

      Maybe someone should have lent that advice to Amadanutjob, before he started construction on a second nuclear facility.

  6. September 25, 2009 11:58 am

    Zbigniew Brzezinski’s comments were clearly meant to be a threat. His attempt to clarify was nothing more than duck and cover. He is weak, that the only way it can be explained.

  7. carterthewriter permalink
    September 25, 2009 12:02 pm

    If your neighbor throws a firecracker into your yard and you call the police and they do nothing, do you just wait for the next one to land in your childs sandbox?

    • September 25, 2009 12:12 pm

      Your comment explains why threats are wasted unless the adversary understands there is a willingness to follow through.

  8. Michael van der Galien permalink
    September 25, 2009 1:37 pm

    “Assuming of course that in a dog fight, the Israeli pilot would lose…”
    True enough – Israeli pilots are quite good, actually.

    “Does lying just come natural to these people?”
    No, they were taught how to do that. Probably during their college years.

    “Zbigniew Brzezinski’s comments were clearly meant to be a threat. His attempt to clarify was nothing more than duck and cover. He is weak, that the only way it can be explained.”
    Agreed. He’s weak, trying to distance himself from his own comments.

  9. tony greenstein permalink
    September 25, 2009 2:54 pm

    Zbiggy is a long-time Israelophobe and sycophant of Jimmy Carter. His Polish origins give him away every time he vilifies Israel. Since he has been out of office for more than 25 years, he should not be given any media publicity.

    • LanceThruster permalink
      September 25, 2009 3:54 pm

      Nothing like a little stereotyping of Poles. How sad.

      • theblanque permalink
        September 25, 2009 8:15 pm

        This comming from an anti-semite–the irony is thick enough to cut with a knife.

        But, even a broken clock is right twice a day; were it not for righteous Poles, my nieces might not be alive today. A pox on the both of you!

      • Joseph Cottrell permalink
        September 26, 2009 3:38 am

        Brzezinski worked for Carter – that’s all you need to know.

  10. Michael van der Galien permalink
    September 25, 2009 3:33 pm

    Tony, sad to say but this man is actually an adviser to President Obama. As such he should be in the media.

  11. fiftyfifty permalink
    September 25, 2009 6:49 pm

    Iran and the people Today people live more by virtue of what the system does for them or to them than by virtue of what they do for themselves. And what they do for themselves is done more and more along channels laid down by the system. Opportunities tend to be those that the system provides, the opportunities must be exploited in accord with the rules and regulations and techniques prescribed by experts must be followed if there is to be a chance of success.

    • theblanque permalink
      September 25, 2009 8:16 pm

      What?!?!?!

      Speak English, man!

      • fiftyfifty permalink
        September 25, 2009 8:58 pm

        Read it again you have to use your head

        • fiftyfifty permalink
          September 26, 2009 4:20 am

          Joe GOOGLE it smart guy start at the word today oh joe have a nice day you to theblanque. you people need to lighten up.

        • theblanque permalink
          September 26, 2009 1:17 pm

          It’s from Theodore Kaczynski’s Manifesto, is incoherent, and out of context.

          What is it that you were trying to say?

  12. zipory permalink
    September 26, 2009 1:51 am

    I read all the comments and the antisemites are only showing their true faces again.

    1. Iraq air apace is not US air space.

    2. Let’s not forget Zbig was NSA to peanut brain Carter who was undoubtedly the worst president the US ever had. As a team they failed to bring about the release of the US prisoners held in the US Embassy in Teheran and apparently never got over their immediate release after Ronald Regan took office.

    3. They didn’t have much love for Israel and Jews during their regime and their hatred abounds till this day.

    4. The Carter/Zbig “comedy” team thinks we have to suffer and listen to their antisemitic and anti Israel remarks till this day. They are both the biggest jokes in town.

    No doubt they suffer from the Stockholm syndrome and the pathetic results can be seen from the recent remarks both of them made.

    And the fact that Zbig is a behind the scenes advisor to B Hussein only proves that the great pretender is trying to compete with peanut brain Carter for the title “the worst president ever”.

  13. Joseph White permalink
    September 26, 2009 8:41 am

    I think everyone is forgetting that the Iraqi airspace isn’t ours. It belongs to the nation of Iraq. If anything, we should be providing the IAF with refueling on the way to and from the target.
    Since Iran won’t listen to the UN, maybe it’s time to let the IAF do some housekeeping. They did it to Saddam, and they can do it to Iran.

  14. September 26, 2009 1:39 pm

    Ziggy-did work for Carter-Carters brother Billy “borrowed money ” from Gadaffy-duck-never did pay it back-both of them hate the Jews-as do most arabs-I can remember years ago how the left hated that there was a Jewish state-NEVER AGAIN should be our motto as well-never another 911-and now that other nut job-in Iran has 2 nuke plants-still want to play patty cake with him and talk nice-

  15. Joy permalink
    September 27, 2009 6:06 am

    Glad that some intelligent posters have made the distinction that we are now in a reinforcement position in Iraq and airspace over Iraq belongs to that country! But maybe someone can enlighten me: I still never got it straight about Shia & Sunni – and the Lib press is no longer banging the drum about it, since Bush is out of office and the surge has been working (enshallah!). So, are the Iraqis & the Iranians still at each other’s throats? It seems to me that Maliki did some serious brown-nosing when reps of Achmajinaboob came calling not so long ago. Which is the dominant sect in each country?

    The point of these questions is, how mad would Iraq be if we refused to defend THEIR airspace in an Israeli flyover? I know the Iraqis hate the Jews & the Israelis, but how do they feel about Iran? Anyway, maybe EVERYONE in the neighborhood would be somewhat relieved if its regional bully got his clocked cleaned just a little bit?

    • jbtrevor permalink
      September 27, 2009 6:43 am

      Joy, good questions. I don’t have the answer but I found an article on FrontPage Magazine that might provide some insight, at least some history – the end of the article lists what Iran would do to Iraq.

      http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=28043

      I’d like to think the Iraqis would favor Iranian getting their butts kicked, but if it’s Israel that does it…that “favor” might not be so evident.
      Julie

  16. Joseph White permalink
    September 27, 2009 7:19 am

    Joy,
    the main difference between Shia and Sunni Muslims are the differences in sects.

    Shia Islam is based on the teachings of the Islamic holy book, the Qur’an and the message of the final prophet of Islam, Muhammad. In contrast to other schools of thought, Shia Islam holds that Muhammad’s family, the Ahl al-Bayt (“the People of the House”), and certain individuals among his descendants, who are known as Imams, have special spiritual and political rule over the community. Shia Muslims further believe that Ali, Muhammad’s cousin and son-in-law, was the first of these Imams and was the rightful successor to Muhammad and thus reject the legitimacy of the first three Rashidun caliphs. Shia Muslims, less than a third of the Muslim world, constitute the majority of the population in Iran, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Lebanon, and Iraq. Countries with a significant minority of Shia are Syria, Kuwait, Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Mauritius, Oman and Yemen.

    The Shia Islamic faith is vast and inclusive of many different groups. There are various Shia theological beliefs, schools of jurisprudence, philosophical beliefs, and spiritual movements. Shi’a Islam embodies a completely independent system of religious interpretation and political authority in the Muslim world. The Shi’a identity emerged during the lifetime of Muhammad, and Shia theology was formulated in the second century. The first Shi’a governments and societies were established by the end of the third century (after Hijra)

    Sunni Muslims are those who believe in the literal word of the Koran, and believe that the Koran is the be all and end all of living.

    These are just two of the Muslim Sects, and there are a lot more out there.

    Iraq is majority Shia, while Iran is majority Sufi Muslim. Technically, Iran is closer to being like America than any other Arab state, but since their leaders are what I would call psycho nutjobs, and the clerics hold power, they are held in a near perpetual state of terror.

    If it weren’t for religion driving their government, I suspect that the arab states, Israel, and the West would be at peace. But that is just my belief.

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