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Most Ridiculous Comment of the Day: A Ron Paul Supporter Equates Michael Moore with Ronald Reagan

September 29, 2009
Does this guy have the same ideas a Michael Moore?

Did this guy have the same ideas about anti-American terrorists as Michael Moore?

From Dino Crawley, as posted on NewsReal’s Facebook page in response to Michael van der Galien’s post yesterday about Morning Joe’s promotion of leftist Michael Moore’s newest neo-communist effort:

To the Editor: Mr. Van Der Galien, the propaganda you speak of in this article seems to come DIRECTLY from THIS article. For one thing, you seem to side-step a couple of facts. Namely: You mentioned in the article about Michael Moore calling “the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan `Freedom Fighters`”. If I am not mistaken, that is the same term used by then U.S. President Reagan back in the 1980`s when the Mujahideen (then fighting the U.S.S.R.) was being backed by the C.I.A. The C.I.A. went on to form (AND NAME) the group we now know today as Al-qaeda (using those same members of the Mujahideen, including Osama Bin Laden). Therefore, Michael Moore IS NOT the originator of that term. Lastly, I`d like to point you to a Bible quote from the book of 1st Timothy, chapter 6, verse 10. Where The author (Apostle Paul) writes: “The LOVE OF MONEY is the root of all evil”. Michael Moore is doing nothing more than exposing where the evil(s) of the world are coming from in this film.

I stumbled into a debate with Mr. Crawley before on Facebook. He’s not a leftist, he’s a Ron Paul True Believer or a “Paulastinian.” Engaging with him the other week regarding his hero “Dr. Paul” I was delighted to see him prove one of the points of my Paul post: the crackpot congressman’s supporters frequently hold views ripped from the pages of the Anti-American Left.  This new comment is further evidence.

  1. Eric Kirk permalink
    September 29, 2009 12:42 pm

    Moore is more of a modern day H.L. Mencken or Mark Twain, using a different medium.

  2. AvantRetard permalink
    September 29, 2009 1:01 pm

    The only thing Reagan and Michael Moore have in common is a love of jelly beans. The difference being Reagan knew when to stop eating.

    • jbtrevor permalink
      September 29, 2009 5:42 pm


      LOL – the comment that made my day


  3. Mark permalink
    September 29, 2009 2:34 pm

    Where does one start to examine the stupidity of Crawley’s above-referenced comment? It is generally accepted that the formal group Al-qaeda has its origins in August of 1988, at a meeting which included Bin-Laden. Crawley’s assertion that it was formed and named by the CIA is a psychotic delusion. As for invoking Timothy 1, 6:10, of whom could this description be more apt than Michael Moore himself? Moore has made a career of posing as a champion of the working class, all the while leading his life in an antithetical way, raking in $millions from his propaganda films and living in lavish fashion at his residence in Manhattan. I’m sure he feels the pain of the “little people” as he stuffs his face with bon-bons, feet up in his home theatre, and jets around the world in grand fashion. The man is a pig.

    Finally, where does Eric Kirk get off comparing Moore to H.L. Mencken, let alone Mark Twain? Both men were literary giants, prodigious in their output and incisive in their critiques. Comparing either with Moore is akin to likening Cole Porter to Eminem.

    • Eric Kirk permalink
      September 29, 2009 4:44 pm

      Historians who set aside their ideological blinders will recognize Moore as a top rate satirist, who integrated his subject matter into his work masterfully. I’ve yet to see anyone with the street theater touch he has. Even Sascha Cohen is like a sledge hammer to Moore’s scalpel.

      I’m not a big fan of Moore’s politics, but I am a fan of his art.

      • September 29, 2009 4:46 pm

        I’m not sure I’d call it art but he is a talented propagandist. He’s certainly skilled and good at what he does — too bad he has to invest his gifts toward destroying the country that made it possible for him to develop them.

        • Eric Kirk permalink
          September 29, 2009 8:25 pm

          From his perspective he’s making the country a better place. From my perspective people like Beck and Palin are tearing it down.

          Palin recently badmouthed the president of the United States in Hong Kong, owned by a communist country. Where are all the people who shrieked about the Dixie Chicks?

          I guess it’s all a matter of perspective.

          • Swemson permalink
            September 29, 2009 8:48 pm

            Objectivity and integrity are also involved..

            But you’re not familiar with those words are you ?

          • September 30, 2009 6:49 am

            NewsReal, FrontPage, and Discover The Networks have articulated how Michael Moore and his allies are seeking to dismantle our country and replace it with something else –something that doesn’t work.

            What are Beck and Palin doing to tear the country down?

            • Kenneth Gareau permalink
              September 30, 2009 2:56 pm

              Gov. Palin was not speaking to the citizens of or the government of the Communist Chinese. She was speaking to the employees of a privately owned company. But do not let facts get in the way of your incomplete and misleading remarks.

      • September 29, 2009 9:37 pm

        I’ll give Moore some minor props. “Roger and Me” was mildly amusing. His short lived “TV Nation” was pretty clever at times. But as a satirist, he’s in the bush leagues when compared to other great American writers of the genre. Off the top of my head I can think of Will Rogers, Stan Freberg, Edward Albee, and William Gaines, hey even Mel Brooks–all light years beyond what passes for satirical humor in the Michael Moore household.

  4. September 29, 2009 2:37 pm

    What ice cave on Jupiter do you live in EK? On this planet, Mencken was one the most influential writers of the early 20th Century. Twain is an American classic for all time. Moore is but a rude burp in history whose gas will dissipate and be long forgotten.

    • Kevroc permalink
      September 30, 2009 4:55 am

      We can only hope his gas will be forgotten. There are many in the masses of the mindless who lap it up.

      Further, the way our schools are headed… don’t be surprised to see his films shown in school auditoriums.

      I wouldn’t bet against it.

  5. Michael van der Galien permalink
    September 29, 2009 2:46 pm

    Indeed, what’s so awesome about that comment, David, is that it proves what you and others have been saying for such a long time now; when push comes to shove, Paul bares close resemblance to leftists. He uses their arguments almost all the frigging time.

    It’s with crackpots as it is with leftists in general: the best arguments against their views are… those views. 😀

  6. September 30, 2009 12:49 am

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Not everything the Anti-American Left says is wrong. Is there any disputing the substance of Dino Crawley’s comment? Or is the point of this post only to draw a line between Paul and the Left?

    I find it ironic that I should find such a post on the same blog which just a week or so ago posted an excellent Open Thread video highlighting the fact that the political spectrum in this country, as popularly understood, is a lie. What most people think of as Left and Right are fabrications, mostly based on the platform distinctions between Democrats and Republicans. The real political spectrum runs from anarchy through liberty to tyranny. Congressmen Paul seeks liberty. To the extent the Left does also, he will find himself in agreement with them. It doesn’t matter what party someone comes from, or what other ideas they may have; if they support liberty in a particular instance, Paul will likely agree with them.

    It Anti-American Left has met with success chiefly due to their ability to leverage legitimate injustice to justify their more nefarious agenda. The Civil Rights movement stands out as the most glaring example. It was powered by communists. Yet the underlying issue of racial equality was a genuine issue. Similarly, Crawley here makes an accurate point. That it is a point also made by the Left does not make it incorrect.

  7. Wayne permalink
    September 30, 2009 4:33 am

    Eric Kirk; there are significant difference between Mark Twain and Michael Moore; Twain was able make his point with humor, wit, and satire while clearly identifying it as fiction. Moore does so with distortion, ridicule, and lies that he presents as fact. “Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please”(MT) , fits Moore.

    Twain was proud of being a capitalist. He work hard, earned every cent he received, and encouraged others to do the same. Moore is a hypocrite espousing socialist principles claiming to be of the proletariat while pocketing millions. Moore wants to share the wealth starting with yours. Clearly Twain had Moore in mind when he wrote, “Honesty is the best policy – when there is money in it.”

    Moore is inferior to Mencken or Twain in every respect. Unless you are referring to Mencken and Twain in their present circumstances in which case he might be their equal.

  8. Rob M. permalink
    September 30, 2009 9:14 pm

    Ronald Reagan knew what Communism was/is. Ultra-Radicals Like Barak H. Obama, Bill Ayers, and Michael Moore think they know what Communism/Marxism should be.

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