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Where Are The Body Bags?

September 30, 2009

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Virtually every day during the Iraq War when George Bush was president, the New York Times featured a dead soldier, or many dead soldiers, on its front page. Every day the paper tugged at the heart-strings of Americans at home for their young men and women sent to die by a presidential liar for “no reason” in an “unnecessary war.” Barack Obama has continued both wars started by President Bush (and what does that tell you about liberal lies?) but there are no body bags to be seen, no heart-wrenching stories on the front page of the New York Times, no tales of needlessly dead American soldiers, no stories of American torturers, and no stories of collateral damage to innocent civilians (and how many civilians do you think has Obama blown up)? And why is that? Because the American left was willing to give victory to America’s enemies for political gain at home.

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  1. LanceThruster permalink
    September 30, 2009 9:56 pm

    The NYT was a cheerleader for the run up to war as it regurgitated any pronouncement from the Bush Misadministration without question. I don’t read the NYT so I don’t know what is or isn’t on their front page but the news sources I read still cover the tragedies so familiar with Bush’s incompetent prosecution of the wars. Maybe with the current cheerleading over dealing with Iran taking center stage, those pushing that agenda don’t wish for too many painful reminders of the ultimate cost of war.

    • VNVet permalink
      September 30, 2009 11:47 pm

      One advantage of being a leftist (for them) is having no interest in history, which allows them to say stupid things without even knowing it. The only interest the left has in history is in revising it to fit their convoluted world view. For those Americans who do take an interest in history, they know that as wars go, the Iraq war went very well. Especially when one considers that President Bush, Sec of Defense Rumsfeld, the Generals in the Pentagon and U.S. forces on the ground in Iraq had to fight the war while dragging the democ-rats and their media along kicking and screaming. Much the same as we had to do in Viet Nam. This emboldening and encouraging of the enemy and demoralizing of the troops, does make the job harder and causes many more casualties than would otherwise occur, and of course lengthens the conflict. In the case of the Iraq war the left caused these things plus the necessity of a ‘surge’, or reinforcement. The U.S. was trying to win the war with the smallest possible footprint in the middle east, but leftist treachery caused more troops to be sent into battle. The only thing the left would be good for, in a war against America’s enemies would be as cannon fodder.

      • Retired Soldier permalink
        October 1, 2009 7:08 am

        VNVET,
        Exactly! All of the so called journalists, editors, producers, and most of all politicians, who did this are traitors to the country. By their actions they directly contributed to the deaths of American soldiers, marines, and sailors.
        Before using them as cannon fodder, I would love to see them convicted of giving aid and confort to the enemy …then I would gladly volunteer to pull the lanyard on the Howitzer.
        RVN ’66, ’67, ’68, ’71, ’72.

        • Swemson permalink
          October 1, 2009 11:26 am

          Remember when some politicians had integrity ?

          In 1940, Wendell Willkie ran against Roosevelt, but never in the election process did he say anything nasty about Roosevelt or the way he was prosecuting the war, because he thought that denigrating our president while the country was at war, was unpatriotic and unseemly..

          Of course he WAS a republican….

    • October 1, 2009 7:32 am

      It times to put the tired old phrases like “Bush incompetence” behind and focus on what is taking place today, to make a realistic assessment of whether or not we like what is taking place in America on this day. I see a future where today’s young people will suffer financial consequences of bad policy decisions being made today. And it’s not a good idea to put your allegiance in party politics. Both parties have, and are, screwing up the America we live in. Rather than ranting about how you feel about George Bush, we’d all be better off if we did a major clean-up job of Congress. They are out of control and they allow Barack Obama to be out of control.

      • October 3, 2009 10:18 am

        When we speak of liberals we tend to downgrade their importance in the scheme of things. The contrary is true however because among the liberal wing of the democratic party there are a nucleus of die hard radicals who have, for years, worked at bringing down this nation and finally now that they have gained a foothold in one of the two major political parties in conjunction with their czar comrades in the white house and those in cabinet positions are poised to exercise their political ideology to bring about change in our government and the nation.
        Their naked hatred of this nation is unforgivable and certainly dangerous more so because many Americans are not aware of the cancer that is slowly overtaking our federal bureaus. Remember what Saul Alinsky wrote in his “rules for radicals”? You assimilate with your enemy, espouse his cause then slowly undermine him and doing this with those in high office in government and you will slowly create the chaotic conditions necessary for a revolution. By the time you are fully entrenched in the fibers of the nation the people will revolt and turn to you for help not aware that you are the cause of their distress and national calamity. The big difference between this scenario and the Russian revolution in 1917 is that this is bloodless without a single bullet being fired. You see Saul Alinsky knew that Communism wouldn’t have a chance to succeed in America with a strong middle class but once you destroy the middle calss you would have a potent enemy of the government, a force that would exert pressure for a change which you, of course, would be ready to provide……in other words the pressure from the top and from the bottom would make change necessary to restructure the Republic in your own image! Isn’t this what George Soros has been spending his millions on? To change this Republic to a socialist one and he has thus far, created and funded political active groups like ACORN, MoveOn.org, ACT, etc. He his funding guys like John Podesta who created MoveOn.org fopr him under which he would be able to bring political action in the streets and into the Democratic Party. Like an octapus his tentacles are in every aspect of our political life and there asre many others out of the public arena who are working with him to undermine this republic. His minions on all politicla levels in the ‘Democratic Pary that attacked president Bush is a case in point. those were concerted attacks that did not take into account the damage to our military operatiuons and to the national security, no! their aim was then as it continued to be today, the total transformation of America and we should all be mindful of this!
        I hope we are successful!
        PCL

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          October 4, 2009 4:51 am

          Peter
          I recal how from the very first day Bush took office the democrats started talking down the economy even when unemployment was at levels many experts considered full employment very low interest rates and the economy booming the democraps kept talking down the economy. Yes and Soros aided in that with all the money resources the crappers needed. I believe there should be an investigation of Soros he was convicted in another country of crimes and I believe he has violated our federal laws as well.

        • Marylou permalink
          November 30, 2009 10:29 am

          Mr. Lubrano,

          I can forgive their naked hatred of this country, wrong as I think they are. It’s a matter of opinion and sentiment. I think they are extremely ungrateful and actually ignorant of the very plan for our freedom. Somehow they cannot appreciate it. However, they are entitled because of our very precious freedom to their opinions. However, the second part of your sentence says they are dangerous and that is what I believe we need to fight against.

          We are afforded wonderful protections by our founders’ plan for us. Now we seem to need to find people who will bravely enforce that protection of the American people in every arena and on all fronts. I, too, hope that we will turn back the tide of the leftist takeover of our govt that is underway. I pray the people will wake up and show their American ingenuity in turning back the thugs who are pressing at our doors.

  2. October 1, 2009 1:54 am

    G.E media would not endanger the puppet with such smear tactics.

  3. Jack Hampton permalink
    October 1, 2009 2:44 am

    As a vereran of the Vietnam War I can attest to the fact this started long ago by the media. I remember Walter Cronkite lying about The Tet offensive and portraying it as a huge victory for North Vietnam when in fact it was disasterous defeat. The VietCong were completely destroyed never to rise again as any kind of credible force. we see the progression today of the death of real journalism where most of the media is in the pocket of our Dear Leader nothing but absolute schills perpetuated by left wing journalism schools and professors that David Horowitz has so abley pointed out and struggled to reform. I do believe there is hope for the future because it will be the natural instinct for those that love freedom to rebel against these over reaching leftist.

    • fiftyfifty permalink
      October 2, 2009 12:55 am

      Walter Cronkite statemant, He said the war is unwinnable. demoralize America’s soldiers is going to happen again. Standing the wall is one thing, there are three sad things about Vietnam war.
      1. 58,159 U.S. soldiers died

      2. The slaughter after we pulled out in 1975 of Vietnamese from both sides, 1.5 to 2 million Laotians and Cambodians,

      3 The cowards and the anti war protesters are in Congress now still spiting in our face’s.

      • VNVet permalink
        October 2, 2009 1:54 pm

        Actually, we pulled out of Viet Nam in 1973 after the signing of the Paris Peace Accords. Part of the Accords, aside from the fact that the North agreed not to invade the South, was that the U.S. would provide support to the South. In 1974 the democ-rats who had worked so hard for so many years to undermine the war, and who controlled Congress, prematurely and illegally pulled our support (aid, spare parts, etc) for the South. A year after that (1975) the North, in direct violation of the Peace Accords, invaded the South. Subsequently, as you pointed out, a bloodbath occurred in Southeast Asia. This was predicted by republicans and military personnel, while democ-rats like John F’n sKerry argued that “only a few thousand people” would be executed.

        • Swemson permalink
          October 2, 2009 2:14 pm

          I’d still like to see Kerry tried for treason to his country…

          He and Hanoi Jane without question gave aid & comfort to our enemies !

          • Swemson permalink
            October 2, 2009 11:03 pm

            BTW: They’re still selling Hanoi Jane stickers (you know which ones I’m talking about) you can order them online at:

            http://www.kmike.com/JaneUrinal.htm

            We ought to make some up with Barry’s image on them

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            October 3, 2009 12:22 am

            I believe Fonda violated what is referred to as the Mann act. But hell memory is not what it once was. But she should be if a federal pen to this day.

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            October 3, 2009 2:30 am

            Damn Swemson
            It will just let me give you one thumbs up I was going to go by Chicago rules.

        • Joseph White permalink
          October 2, 2009 2:49 pm

          I guess that’s why I could never be a democrat. I have a sense of honor and it bothers me when we, as a nation, break our sacred word to other countries. A few thousand people is still murder, and it’s even worse, because we refused to honor our commitment.

          It’s just like during the Kuwait campaign, we promised the people that if they rose up against Saddam, that we’d support them, and then we didn’t, and thousands more died because they trusted us.

          It’s just like when the recent Bush promised the Iraqi’s that we’d support them if they overthrew their corrupt leaders, and when they tried, we refused to help them.

          And now, President Obama has broken our treaties with the former russian states that wanted the missile shield. I don’t think I’d trust us either.

          It might be because of my upbringing, but I’ve always been told that you are only as good as your word, and if you break it, you are nothing.

          What this country needs is another FDR, a man who’s not afraid to do the hard jobs.

          Or maybe we need a Churchill.

          • Swemson permalink
            October 2, 2009 4:57 pm

            Joe;

            What bothers me more than the fact that America has been breaking its commitment to our allies, is the fact that ever since the Viet Nam war, it’s been breaking the unwritten covenant that it has with out military….

            Most non-military folks don’t understand this, but when you stand up and swear the oath to preserve, protect & defend our Constitution, there’s a quid pro quo. You agree to risk you life, and indeed you know you may lose your life, but your government is also promising that they will not WASTE your life…

            That pledge was violated for the first time when LBJ and Bob McNamara started picking bombing targets and micromanaging the war from the oval office, based not on what the military needed to win the war, but rather on what was best for them politically…

            Of course they did this (at least LBJ did it) with glasses full of bourbon, and from that point on, the military has become an expendable asset to them….

            Of course Reagan and Bush didn’t see it that way, but Carter, Clinton and now Obama,, have openly shown their disdain for the military, and even though I’m proud of my years in the Marine Corps, I wouldn’t advise my child to join the military today.

            There IS no honor or integrity in the executive branch when the democrats are in control….

            Absolutely NONE !

            • Joseph White permalink
              October 2, 2009 6:16 pm

              I agree swemson.
              When politicians get involved in the war, I shudder because I know what will happen. My soldiers (Yes, I call them my soldiers because I honor them, I would pay them the million dollars that stupid football players get paid, and I’d give them the same healthcare package that congress gets,) will eventually be thrown under the bus in the name of political expediency.

              When an ex-marine gets up and calls other marines baby killers, I want some active duty Marine to send him flying off of the stage, and when Obama promises to fix the VA, and doesn’t, I want to put the congress on the VA healthcare plan. Maybe then they’d know what it felt like to give their all and be thrown away at the end of the day.

              I seem to remember hearing you say that you’ve served our country, and I would like to give you my heartfelt thanks for your service and your sacrifice.
              And if it doesn’t offend, I’d also like to say, “Keep the faith.” Some of us do honor you and want you to get what you deserve.

              • Swemson permalink
                October 2, 2009 10:48 pm

                That doesn’t offend at all…

                I may not be religious, but I always had FAITH in the Marines I served with !

                As a Marine. I’m curious who you’re referring to above…

                Kerry was a Naval officer, & he’s still the most despicable VN war vet I’m aware of… Gore was always trying to portray himself as a warrior, when in reality, he was a REMF…

                Did you know that Kerry put himself in for his 3rd purple heart, and when the request was rejected, he appealed the decision? Since a 3rd Purple Heart came with a ticket home, his CO finally gave it to him, and expressed the opinion at the time, that it was worth it to get him the hell out of the theater of operations, because he was a crappy officer who was a danger to his own men…

                • Jack Hampton permalink
                  October 3, 2009 12:19 am

                  Swemson
                  Actually Kerry put himself in for all of his Purple Hearts. His first was refused by his commanding officer but some how Kerrymanaged to come up with it after that commander was transfered. Those records have not been released to this day as he promised he would. I have spoke to former JAG officers some of whom I worked with in my civilian occupation that said that Kerry in all probability received less than an honorable discharge because of unauthorized meetings with the comunist in Paris while still on active duty and that discharged was upgraded by the Carter administration.

                  • Swemson permalink
                    October 3, 2009 12:10 pm

                    On top of that he was such a terrible officer in the field, that I’m surprised he wasn’t fragged by his own men….

                • Jack Hampton permalink
                  October 3, 2009 2:59 am

                  Swemson

                  Wasn’t Gore a reporter who had his own body guards I read a report by one of them but it has been years. He also managed to get a six month early out to attend Vanderbilt Devinity school and flunked out on his first grading period. I found that odd because the longest early out I ever heard of before was 90 days. I know he is despised in Tennessee.

                  • Swemson permalink
                    October 3, 2009 12:08 pm

                    That’s correct…

                    and he never even went to the latrine without those guys by his side…

                    Did you ever notice that in most of the photos of him while in uniform that he used in his campaign, he’s always wearing a full set of gear and carrying a rifle…. ?

                    A friend’s brother was a military aide in the white house while he was veep, and he said that Gore was even more rude and arrogant than Hillary…

                    He’s always been a LIAR, and with his AGW crap, he’s truly risen to the top in the art of lying…

                • Joseph White permalink
                  October 3, 2009 8:28 am

                  The offending ex-marines name is: Representative Jack Murtha. The owner of Jack Murtha Field, a pork barrel project that created a small airfield that nobody uses.

            • VNVet permalink
              October 2, 2009 9:00 pm

              Actually it started with Truman and the Korean War where democ-rats began fighting wars with no intention of winning them. Disgraceful.

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          October 3, 2009 12:35 am

          VNVet
          There was a series of heavy artillery batteries 175 and 8 inch howeitzers that controled all the approaches into south Vietnam they were at Fire bases called Birmingham, Rockasan, Alpha 1,2,3 and FB Vandergrief I was wounded right outside of Vandergrief not far from the old Special Forces Camp at LongVey, Spelling is probably wrong, and Dong Ha, I patroled around many of those bases and sheltered at many of them when close to them. The Democraps simply allowed these firebases to run out of amunition or what was refered to as Projo’s , the rounds they fired one weighed 197lb. the 8in weighed 206lb I believe also they were out of powder. One of my friends helped blow up those guns as they retreated south the ARVN surrendered. The demoCrapers would not even allow air support. They intended to turn that country over to the comunist from jump street. They never intended to honor there comitment and simply cut off all funds. I hope every time they lay there head down on a pillow they see the faces of the dead all night long. But I am sure they do not.

      • LanceThruster permalink
        October 2, 2009 4:29 pm

        re: #3 – “spit(t)ing in our faces”. Former GA Sen. Max Cleland certainly sacrificed much in Vietnam (triple amputee) yet Republican Saxby Chambliss ran pictures of Saddam and Osama challenging Cleland’s patriotism for his Homeland Security vote.

        And that tactic worked! Yet Republicans always seem to blame someone else for their failure to win. You lose political support; it’s the Dems fault. Fail to be victorious in any particular conflict; again, fault of the Dems. This ignores the fact that if Military recruitment offices had the same turnout your little teabagger snit-fits allegedly had, the rest of the country could actually see you putting your money where your mouth was. Instead, more armchair quarterbacking and blaming the refs.

        Get your asses kicked in an election? Clearly you didn’t have what it takes to win? blame it on the media? Clearly none of your titans of industry understood the power of the media to sway public opinion. Capitalism is the triumph of the free market allowing producers of the wealth to spend it as they wish (there’s plenty of media outlets that would gladly sell). If you say there’s too much collusion by the left, too much media control, too much liberal money gaming the system, then you clearly don’t have what it takes to win either in numbers, or from those willing to commit their resources for the cause they supposedly believe in. You’ve basically admitted to getting clobbered by the inferior team. How’s that make you feel? You possess the right view, the right logic, the facts on your side, the support of the historical record, and what do you do?

        The ball hits you square in the numbers, and instead of pulling in the reception and protecting the ball, you start to bobble it as you run down field. Problem is, you had control of it long enough so that when you dropped the ball, instead of an incomplete pass it was a fumble. You could actually go after the defender racing towards his own goal line and try to make the tackle but you’re too busy crying to the ref that it was an incomplete or interference or what have you (and then tell teammates the sun was in your eyes).

        Don’t you guys ever tire of being WATB’s? All the tactics you say the Dems are using are available to you; money, media, academics, industry, politics, and on and on…yet you still can’t pull it off. You say you’re be frozen out? Guess you don’t have the killer instinct to act as a wolf pack. Too ethical to use those tactics? Too bad, you lose (see “killer instinct”).

        Hell, Falwell created his own university and Robertson built his own media empire and they’re not the sharpest knives in the drawer themselves; and you’re saying you can’t build the foundations for your own success? You need a little affirmative action to help you win elections, and win wars, and win the support of the people, is that it? Why that would destroy the competitive spirit of America to GIVE you what you can’t gain on your own merit. It’s not like it’s a legacy admission to some university; you have to earn it.

        If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay on the porch (and whine….you’re real good at whining – Olympian, I’d say).

        “Catch-22 means people have the right to do to you anything that you cannot prevent them from doing to you.”

        Looks like it doesn’t matter if you bend over to grab your ankles or not, regardless of what Rush says; the end result will be the same. All because the other side is better at winning by any means necessary.

        I guess you can all console yourself with the fact that, though it’s said that no one remembers second place, I’ll always remember you as that, and, as the perennial quitters you are.

        You should have a fought harder. Oh well, too late now. Then as now, when too many of you wave the white flag, your forces get routed as so many of them are in full-gallop retreat. Have fun with your circular firing squad.

        • VNVet permalink
          October 2, 2009 8:31 pm

          Are you on drugs man. Your rambling is almost incoherent. I had to sift through the clutter to try and understand any points you were trying to make. Max Cleland accidentally blew himself up with a grenade in a non-combat situation when he was getting off a chopper. That is not a reason for derision, except that he tried to capitalize on it and allowed others to build him up as a hero for political purposes. In fact several other democ-rats like John F’n sKerry and Tom Harkin also made false claims about their heroism in the Viet Nam War. sKerry was there for 4 months, his performance less than remarkable, and Harkin never was there. Incidentally, both were good friends with communist Daniel Ortega and did their best to help Ortega by apposing Reagan’s aid to the Contra freedom fighters in Nicaragua. But I digress.

          Since republicans have owned the U.S. Presidency most of the time since 1968 there isn’t any basis for your contentions. So out of 41 years, republicans have owned the Presidency 28 years. And unless Obumba has a heart attack or is impeached it will probably be 28 of 44 years. If the wingnut Perot hadn’t entered the race in ’92, Klinton wouldn’t have happened. And if the citizenry had known what Obumba was really about it is unlikely he would have been elected. So it could/should have been even worse for the dimbulbs. Republicans have owned Congress 12 out of the last 15 years. We will likely own both again in the next 3 years. So there is no problem there.

          That brings us to your next contention: Conservatives have built their own media empire to appose the heretofore unapposed leftist behemoth. The dem media is losing ground every day, losing revenue and viewership, readership and listeners. But leftists aren’t up to the challenge of competition. They aren’t up to a battle of ideas. They are kinda crybabies, boo hoo, and want their friends in the dem party to do whatever it takes to shut down, shut up the competition. They are cowards too. While the republicans have had to go into the viper’s nest, NBC,CBS,ABC,CNN,PBS,NPR, etc., for years for biting interviews, antagonism, leading questions, etc., democraps cry like babies about a more balanced Fox. Of course they are not toughened up due to the kids gloves treatment they’ve been the beneficiary of all the years. So what do they do? They cry big alligator tears and boycott Fox. The Chickensh its.

          One thing you said that’s true, is that the democraps will do anything to win. They have no honor.

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            October 3, 2009 2:22 am

            Vn Vet
            That was outstanding you gave this individual some hard facts but let me assure you facts will not matter to him. I have to wonder if he might be a disgruntled Lemont Hill but sounds Canadian kind of to me. Which ever he is not worth our time. But great job.

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            October 3, 2009 2:53 am

            Vet
            Harkin claimed to be a combat fighter pilot in Vietnam is that not what the story was and was caught in the lie. Why is it democrats dredge up these phony hero’s?

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          October 3, 2009 2:16 am

          Lancie

          Max Cleland was injured by a grenade because he violated the training that every basic recruit gets that serves in the Army You are repeatedly told never to pick up unexploded ordinance most certainly not grenades you see laying around that could be bobby trapped or simply failed to detonate at the time. Max Cleland was not in a battle or fire fight he was goofing off and violated the most basic of instructions. He was not combat wounded. It was regrettable and wish it had not happened but he did it to himself. Saxby Chambliss did nothing dishonorable or wrong in that election I followed it very closely. You are very good at twisting facts and also prevaricating when it serves your purpose by omission.

          I will have to add at this time Yes Vietnam was a Democrats fault with out doubt. American forces never lost a battle in Vietnam they did not lose the War the Democrats in congress cut off the funds they quit in other words then did not honor there word to the South Vietnamese.

          I will also point out to you that military recruitment is doing just fine and retention is through the roof. I will also have to say that Republicans have long put there money where there mouth is in case you have not noticed any of the studies that have been done in reference to charity Republicans donate a great deal more to charity than democraps and it is not used underwear like Bill Clinton. Dick Cheney sold his stock options and gave more to charity than probably the whole damn democrap congress. Oh I caught the little teabagger insult that is probably where your mind is and some other part of your anatomy as well.

          Anyone that claims that the majority of the media is not in the pocket of the democrap party is either blind or just an out right liar I believe that most people can guess which category you fit in.

          As far as having what it takes to win you need to check the last thirty five years and see who has been in the oval office for most of those years. Speaking of winning what has your man Obama won since entering the Whitehouse not a damn thing as far as I can see and he has the house and senate and still cannot win… You will in all probability lose control of the house in 2010 and Obama is a one trick pony. He is causing people to pine for the fabulous days of Jimmy Carter. He is done in the next Presidential election. Anyone will beat him.

          I have to say you do not have a clue about a killer instinct. We win our wars when and are still the most powerful country on the face of the earth despite Obama and having to pay for Canada’s defense. I also believe you are a dog and no one wants to run with you because your legs are to short little man if you truly are a man?

          By the way no one has quit anything as a matter of fact the fight is just now getting started. I am more than sure you will see that in the next election then you if you are an American will be filing law suits and contesting the vote just as, Man Bear Pig Al Gore did. But look on the bright side you can always run away to Canada like your ancestors probably did. You and your kind will never be winners so have fun seeking cover in the frozen north land. You are no longer worth the distraction. I will pass over any further comments by you and read the fine articles posted here and comments by the less self obsessed.

          • Retired Soldier permalink
            October 3, 2009 7:59 am

            Jack Hampton,
            About your reply to lancethrusthimself…Well Done.
            MSgt US Army Ret.

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          October 3, 2009 2:34 am

          Oh one more thing how about that dream team that went to Denmark to win the Olympics. Another big win there the Danes were syre impressed with Oprah wiping out all the pastries. Also how is that big win on Medical reform and crap and trade turning your crank. there are Vegas pools on who will be the next pervert or commie to be tossed from this fine administration.

      • Retired Soldier permalink
        October 3, 2009 7:44 am

        fiftyfifty,
        You are overlooking the place where most of cowards and former protestors of the 60’s and 70’s currently reside. It is the place where many of them went to avoid the draft, the place where they have totolitarian influence over the most impressionable, … they teach our youth! And corrupt America’s youth, and turning them into America haters. mmmm mmmm mmmm!

  4. Joseph White permalink
    October 1, 2009 4:27 am

    Again, because the liberals control the media, and Obama is a liberal, they aren’t going to say anything against his policies, even if they are the same as Bush’s. As far as the media is concerned, Obama is god, and is perfect, and they cut him slack a mile wide.

    If Bush had gone to copenhagen for the olympic committee, they’d have crucified him, but since it’s Obama, then it’s cool. If the divine one wants to pitch a bat for chicago, then it’s cool. If he wants to take a vacation 3 months into his term, it’s cool. If he wants to be on TV everyday, it’s cool.

    Obama is a cult of personality. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • Toa permalink
      October 1, 2009 10:32 am

      “Obama is a cult of personality. Nothing more, nothing less.”

      Just the grade-school kids being led into singing songs of adoration to…THE EMPEROR..(awesome music)..alone tells you that much. But thanks to this Nation’s spiritual and moral collapse, it’s only the tip of the iceberg.

      • VNVet permalink
        October 2, 2009 1:58 pm

        Barack Hussein Obama…MMM…MMM…MMMM!

  5. sprinklerman permalink
    October 1, 2009 6:35 am

    I found this letter to the editor of a local paper several years ago when President Bush was in office.

    “Time for debate over;
    Those who served in the Korean or Vietnam Wars will fully understand what I write. There is an unstated, but clearly understood, promise that our government will send our armed forces to war only if it wants us to win. That promise to allow the end result to be victory is sealed in blood the moment the first American combatant is killed. From that instant, the promise is irrevocable, regardless of the miscalculations of the government, the resoureces spent, the caualties suffered, or the strident dissent of those who want their five minutes of fame.
    The time for debate is before the first tank crosses the line, not after. The moment for public dissent is before the first casualty is incurred, not after. The time for Congress to oppose a war is before it starts, not while it is being waged.
    No words now spoken by Congress can erase the fact that those serving in Iraq and Afghanistan were promised they would be allowed to win. The trust we place in our government demands that that promise is not smothered by empty rhetoric and party demagoguery. This time, Congress either owes them a chance to win, or it owes us an apology.
    John J. Kauza
    Pittstown, PA”

    The first amendment to the Constitution guarentees the press to write what they wish. However they can and should pay the price of that freedom if it causes this country to lose or causes additional casualties. As Mr. Hampton has written the behavior of the press during the Vietnam War did just that. Journalists (if you wish to call them that) need to understand that what they print and say can have deadly consequences for those in the line of fire. This is not however a new issue. The press particularly in the northeast, even during the Civil War was known to be critical of Union Generals and President Lincoln. Meade, Grant, and Sherman were favorite targets and on occasion published information that gave aid and comfort to the enemy.

    The behavior of the NYT during the President G. W. Bushs’ term was deplorable. The price that they should pay is financial ruin.

    • Retired Soldier permalink
      October 1, 2009 7:16 am

      Good comment!
      However, I can think of a higher price they shold pay. It should be the same price they caused those in the line of fire and didn’t return to pay.

  6. J Williams permalink
    October 1, 2009 6:43 am

    Nobody, nobody can credibly argue any point in favor of the media, the democrats, liberals, leftists or any other group that is supporting this type of activity. We see hypocrisy, lies, corruption and deceit exposed daily and still there are those who blindly follow or ineptly ignore the truth and fact before them.

    There is absolutely NOTHING Obama has done, will or could do that will draw any criticism from the media. If it is blatant hypocrisy (such as reporting military casualties and hundreds of other issues) the media can simply ignore it. If it is total corruption the media can cover it up or distract us. If it is the destruction of our economy the media will spin the numbers and blame others. If it criticizes Obama’s lack of governing or illuminates the core decay of his soul, contempt for American citizens and abuse of power then the media will turn and attack the messenger.

    This situation is beyond argument, it is beyond understanding and acceptance. We can no longer ignore the facts and truths we see paraded before us each and every day. The world watches and our enemies mock our weakness and stand ready to take advantage of it.

    Step back and take a wider look. There are no excuses any longer.

    • October 1, 2009 7:14 am

      “There is absolutely NOTHING Obama has done, will or could do that will draw any criticism from the media.”

      Actually there is: not going Left enough. He’s ticked off plenty of leftists (my beat here at NewsReal, Bill Maher, is one example) for not pushing for Single-payer.

      • VNVet permalink
        October 1, 2009 10:54 am

        He may not be publicly pushing single-payer, for political expediency, but I have no doubt at all htat he’s pushing congressional democ-rats hard.

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        October 1, 2009 12:46 pm

        Mr. Swemson I will not comment on Mahr,lol.

        • Swemson permalink
          October 1, 2009 4:42 pm

          Huh ?

          Jack;

          I don’t get the point of your statement about Mahr above…

          But I may well me in the midst of a senior moment…

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            October 2, 2009 5:35 am

            Then I am glad because when I made a fool of myself I was on a morphine pump after surgery and I had a bad reaction to the morphine because I have not had anything like that since vietnam. Not an excuse but just a fact.

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        October 3, 2009 2:38 am

        Well thats true.

  7. NightLight permalink
    October 1, 2009 6:54 am

    America’s enemies : Did you mean to say they are on the left? They are killing out soldier every day.
    It is time to let our soldier do his job with the power of the Air Force and used the mother of all bombs to close down the mountains.

    If you hide the enemy you are a part of the enemy. Then there shall be no mercy.

  8. therealend permalink
    October 1, 2009 6:58 am

    When the press started reporting US combat deaths in multiples of 500, I had to conclude they reported these figures for only one purpose: it wasn’t the lives lost in combat that counted, it was the impact these numbers would have on President Bush’s approval rating. So, I have to ask the media this, do you remember the day you gave up your soul and what did that feel like?

  9. Richard Brandt permalink
    October 1, 2009 8:00 am

    When I see the price of gas go down at my local pump, I think: “We’re winning the war.”
    But now, with BHO in office, I get the impression from the newspaper that the war is over.
    Only hearing about people from my state who are killed. – Not the endless drumbeat of how many. Never have I read what the body count is since our new president took office. – Except for something about the worst month for a long time having just happened.

    With this type of news coverage we think that maybe we are crazy …. and that it might be dangerous to tell the truth … or even think it.

  10. October 1, 2009 4:14 pm

    The term liberal is to mild a label. why not call the ameican left the american radical left. These people were born in the ’60s and were hell bent on bringing american down. these people have not mellowed but have festered in their hatred for our country. I cannot give them the benefit of the doubt because during the vietnam war they supported our enemy and disparaged this country and its military. In Iraq and Afghanistan they have done every thing in their power to tie this war to vietnam. There is no love of country here and no real appreciation of how great this country is. Do these folks ever wonder how much freedom they would have enjoyed under a “Hanoi” government or livcing in /russia or in fascist Italy?
    They have no honor and do not deserve tp love in this country….and by the way, don’t preach to me about their right of dissent in a free society. these folks have forfeited that by their actions which gave aid and comfort to our enemies!
    PCL

  11. Gamaliel permalink
    October 2, 2009 2:18 pm

    I disagree with David Horowitz on one aspect. Assuming we should have fought the war in Iraq which I’m not sure of I still think the press should report on the casualties. We should never advocate that the press be silent about what is happening even if it might turn people against a war we believe is necessary. The problem with the press was that it hides and distorts facts to fit its agenda which was not to fight in Iraq. The other problem of course is it’s selective use of facts to promote the political party it supports. That is what we should speak out against. We should never speak out against reports on war casualties no matter how painful or how it might turn people away from policies we support.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 3, 2009 1:15 am

      Gamaliel
      I have to disagree with you on a certain level we should report the loses and did that just fine in WWI and WWII we listed the names of the dead and missing. What I resent is the un wanted filming of coffins that are returning from battle that many famlies resent. I know had it been me I would not want my coffin filmed for some trash news network to try and demoralize the American people.

  12. October 2, 2009 3:33 pm

    The term ” main stream media” is a misnomer. I lost respect for the media during the vietnam campaign when the characterized our soldiers as murderes, rapists and arsonists and every battke was a loss. Whben you add to that the traitorous acts that were committed by Jane fonda and her husband at that time, Tom Hayden, plus the lies briught forth by John Kerry……public opinion was poiusoned and the street demonstrations ended up in characterizing the war as the soopurce of all our problems. the democrats, much to their dishonor added to the national anguish which they helped to create! Let us not forget the lies and accusations hurled by the democrats at president bush and their criticism of the president was done in a manner that aided and abetted the enemy! Today, with president Obama the same lies are perpetrated and his continued attacks on this country diminish it in the eyes of other nations…but this president, is a fool to thimk that he will achieve success when he does this. He fails to realize that respect for him does not increase when he disparages his country but it reflects on his stature as a leader…..he shoots himself in the foot every time he opens his mouth! He has diminished this nation and will continue doing so until his term ends. It is my fervent hope that he will not create serious problems for this nation after he leaves office. I fear this man and his intentions and they do not represent the best interests of america by a long shot….alas it has come to pass that we have a true radical in the oval office….God helps us and God help america!
    Pete Lubrano

    • LanceThruster permalink
      October 2, 2009 6:19 pm

      Ummm…sounds like even your god backed the losing side (couldn’t be your claims of “Gott Mit Uns” might not be true, could it?).

      Guess that makes almost half the country your enemy (for collaberation) and that justifies whatever tactics your side uses against them because they’re the enemy, right?

      Looks like this is going to be a bumpy ride.

  13. October 2, 2009 7:21 pm

    In one sense, we should be rejoicing at the open treason of the left. The mainstream media has been THE most powerful weapon that democrats have employed in the past 80 years to obtain and maintain power. Now that they no longer make any pretense of “unbiased journalism” and have revealed themselves as pure propagandists for the dems, Americans are tuning them out in droves! This bodes well for the future as people turn to conservative alternative media to get at the truth.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 3, 2009 2:46 am

      Smokin
      Good point what was once the mainstream media is now the fringe media. NBC I do not believe can ever recover from there incredible slide. They abandoned all honor and objectivity. I would not be surprised to see them shut down the operation or change it to a movie channel.

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