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Guess Who Gets Discussed in Part III of Frum Vs. Horowitz…

October 2, 2009


Part three in David Frum and David Horowitz’s debate about how Conservatism can win again. In brief: Frum wants to knock the Right’s Queens off the board.


  1. October 3, 2009 1:43 am

    On the day nationals in Europe became the subjects of a bloodless, administative entity called the E.U., judging from this discussion, one would almost have thought American citizens had given up their autonomy as well. Frum is from the Euro school of politics: made by the intelligentsia in academia. He’s sadly mistaken. Americans know: use it or lose it. Long live Populism (I can see Frum cringe – yes David, I know).

  2. jbtrevor permalink
    October 3, 2009 4:50 am

    David Frum has lost his mind, or is close to it.

    “Leaving these issues unstudied makes us vulnerable to convenient myths.”
    He wants to have a study of the millions of Americans who gathered in every state and our nation’s capital on 9/12 to protest the actions of (Obama’s) Government? Has any “liberal” journalist suggested studying those who gathered to protest the (Bush) Government?

    He’s not even sure of himself…

    “This is almost certainly not correct.” Ooooo, almost certainly.

    “That’s unlikely to be correct either” Unlikely?

    Mr. Horowitz has nothing to worry about in the position he has taken; Mr. Frum does.

  3. Cas Balicki permalink
    October 3, 2009 9:27 am

    Obama was elected with a plurality of between 3 and 4 percent. Had the dead-tree media not been in the bag for this empty suit, the shift could easily have been a 7 to 10% the other way, meaning a McCain/Palin win. On the strength of the last election’s results, plus the fact that he thinks the demographics are against conservatism, Frum reasons that the Republican Party needs to remake itself from whole cloth. To put it bluntly, this is just silly. It is also destructive of conservatism in that it shifts the political battlefield to the left and away from conservative principles on the assumption that the independent middle will never buy conservative party planks. What is odd about Frum’s position is that he is arguing it during a period of great conservative reawakening, if not upheaval, against progressive/socialist policy. The Republican Party needs to retool, as does every party after an electoral loss, but that retooling should be done along conservative principles in that the party needs to define these more clearly and annunciate them more vigorously.


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