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The Stopped Clock– Correct Twice in One Day: Meltdown with Keith Olbermann Part 7

October 2, 2009

Returning from extended leave, Wednesday, Keith Olbermann was delivered a Welcome Home gift from the conservative web site Newsmax—a column which all but called for a military coup against Barack Obama.

OLBERMANN: On the heels of a survey posted on Facebook asking should Obama be killed, one right wing columnist has floated the idea of a military coup to unseat the president, as if it were not madness, incitement, un-American, disloyal, totalitarian and treasonous.

“There’s a remote, although gaining, possibility America’s military will intervene as a last resort to resolve the Obama problem. Don’t dismiss it as unrealistic.”

… In a column titled “Obama Risks a Domestic Military Intervention,” John L. Perry of the website “Newsmax” writes as well: “military intervention is what Obama’s exponentially accelerating agenda for fundamental change toward a Marxist state is inviting upon America. A coup is not an ideal option. But Obama’s radical ideal is not acceptable or reversible.”

Perry insisting he is only describing what may be afoot, and not actually advocating a military intervention. But then bullet points reasons why the military would stage such a coup, and proposes this twisted fantasy, “imagine a bloodless coup to restore and defend the Constitution” — yes, by overthrowing it-“through an interim administration that would do the serious business of governing and defending the nation”-by destroying the nation-“skilled, military trained nation builders would replace accountability challenged radical left commissars.”

After scrubbing the column from its website, “Newsmax” now claims Mr. Perry has no official relationship with “Newsmax,” other than as unpaid blogger. Curious, considering Mr. Perry’s byline at the bottom of his column, John L. Perry is a regular columnist for  And in case that isn’t clear, TPM reports Perry has been a regular columnist for “Newsmax” since 1999…

OLBERMANN TO GUEST CHRIS HAYES: Please tell me that even the “Newsmax” crowd, with its Ann Coulter e-mail alerts and it’s ads for free handguns, millionaire patriots and trains you, even these people have to repudiate the premise of a military overthrow of a United States government.

HAYES: Yes, I think if there’s a silver lining in this little story,  it’s the fact that they did take it down from the website. Maybe there are and it was a bloodless coup. One should know that it was a bloodless coup. It was very gentlemanly, what he proposed. [smirk]

But, no, I think it is a taboo, and rightfully so. This is not the sort of thing that I think should be in the normal course of our political discussions about a path forward, even amongst genuine ideologues. So I think it was actually a good sign they took it down.

Surprisingly, Olbermann and his regular guest Chris Hayes of the Marxist magazine The Nation, were fairly restrained in their comments, (mostly) not taking the opportunity it presented to tar all conservatives with this brush, and even gave Newsmax some back-handed credit for taking the piece by John L. Perry off of their website.  (TPM has the column, here.)

In fact, I would argue they gave Newsmax too much credit.  There is no statement denouncing the piece to be found on the site, or to be obtained by calling Newsmax’s office– which is the minimum requirement if they are going to maintain that they hold to some kind of journalistic standard.  When I asked the person who took my call if they were “just going to take it down and pretend it never happened,” she chuckled and said, “That’s about right.”  My emailed request for a response or a statement has been ignored for over a day.

Perry’s initial response was that he was not calling for a coup, just examining a lurking possibility—and the column is couched as reporting—but that’s not a defense.  That’s worse.  It’s a slander on the only military in the world that has NEVER turned its guns on its own citizenry.  It’s a slander generally reserved for liberal novelists and screenwriters and the Seven Days in May scenarios that Olbermann and Hayes indulge in toward the end of this segment.

Newsmax is definitely a grab bag of conservative and right wing commentary.  I should note that they have done a favorable story or two about me, and published my review of Jamie Glazov’s United in Hate. They are the web home of the great Ken Timmerman, one of our best reporters on intelligence matters, and host a blog for the invaluable Frank Gaffney.

However, Newsmax is also probably single-handedly keeping the “birther” farce alive, with staff “reporting” and commentary on the issue, which are sent out to their huge email list.  They have a large stable of unpaid columnists and I can see where it would be impossible to edit all of them before they publish.  That said, dropping a guy from the site few people have heard of, and who writes nearly unreadable pieces like this, is the least Newsmax can do to a guy who suggested an overthrow of the United States Government might not be such a bad idea.

For once, Olbermann’s list of adjectives about someone on the right—“madness, incitement, un-American, disloyal, totalitarian and treasonous” —were about right.  This was a real outrage.

On the sillier side, Republicans and commentators gave Keith a chance to be right again (or at least half right) by smacking Obama around—for all the wrong, but probably poll-tested reasons—for heading to Copenhagen to lobby on behalf of the Chicago Olympics effort…

OLBERMANN: In our number one story, the right wing chorus ripping the president for trying to bring the Olympics back to America, it has been joined now by the House minority leader. No Republican seems to remember that the one day this president has devoted to the effort kind of pales in comparison to the four days the last president spent attending the Olympics in China as a freaking fan…President Bush, you’ll recall, took in the last Olympic Games in China last year, leaving the country fighting two wars, on the brink of economic collapse. He found time, four days of it, to enjoy the Beijing games and spank the volleyball players.

Still, the outrage that our president would spend less than 24 hours trying to bring the Olympics and an economic boon home to the US has been equally laughable and predictable.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)  GLENN BECK, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: President Obama is heading to Denmark this week to help sway the International Olympic Committee.

Vancouver lost-how much was it? They lost a billion dollars when they had the Olympics. How is the city of Chicago and Illinois, that is broke, going to benefit?  (END VIDEO CLIP)

OLBERMANN: The opening ceremonies for the Vancouver Olympics are on February 12th, 2010. They can’t have lost or made anything because it hasn’t happened yet, Biff.

Actually, only Glenn Beck raised the right point (though he used the wrong verb tense)—to question whether the Olympics really are an economic boon.  Sports stadiums are a loss to cities who fund them, and are only an economic benefit when they are privately built.  What is the plan for Chicago?  Salt Lake City was nearly an economic disaster before Mitt Romney saved the day.  My guess is Mitt wouldn’t have been asked to run the Chicago games…

OLBERMANN: Then there are the official Republican mouthpieces. Michael Steele, in a conference call with reporters yesterday.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)  MICHAEL STEELE, RNC CHAIRMAN: The goal should be creating, you know, not job opportunities seven years from now, but job opportunities today. If the priority is the Olympics in seven years, OK, then tell the nation that’s the priority and that’s what we should be focused on, because we’ll create jobs then, and we won’t worry about it between now and 2016.  (END VIDEO CLIP)

OLBERMANN: See, you have jobs now building stuff for seven years from now. They don’t put up the Olympics facilities over night like a circus tent.  And this morning, House Minority Leader Boehner picked up on the anti-Olympic stupidity.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)  REP. JOHN BOEHNER ®, MINORITY LEADER: He’s the president of the United States, not the mayor of Chicago. And the problems we have here at home affect all Americans. And that’s where his attention ought to be.  (END VIDEO CLIP)

DOH! Olbermann unconsciously made Glenn Beck’s point by pointing out that expenditures come well before the event.  Olbermann then hosted Robert B. Reich, the “economist” who recently said the problem is that the federal government isn’t spending enough, in a discussion that treated as fact the idea that the Olympics are always a major economic plus for the host country.

But neither Michael Steele nor John Boehner made that point.  Instead, they chose to make it look like  the Republican Party is also verging on Obama Derangement Syndrome.  Is it possible for John Boehner, and Michael Steele to pick a dumber issue than criticizing Obama over the lobbying to get Chicago the Olympics?  Do they think no one in America has seen Air Force One?  That we don’t know the President is never away from work?

This criticism is doubly counterproductive because it implies that the President’s attention to economic matters is actually a good thing, that he does valuable work on the economy when he’s here.  Hey, if Barack Obama is out of town trying to bring jobs to the Midwest, he’s not giving speeches that make the market drop 100 points, twisting arms for socialized medicine, or trying to cripple our energy industry.

Having Barack Obama distracted from the economy is a good thing.

If the Republicans had the good sense, like Rush Limbaugh today, to wait until the President failed in his over-personalized bid to obtain the Olympics, rather than taking cheap shot non-sequiturs ahead of time, there were points to be scored.

The Republicans should have wished the President well in his bid to bring a great event to the United States.  Then they could have given Obama the blasting he deserves today for making the rotten point in Denmark that the Olympic Committee should reward the United States for electing him, and send the signal that the hatred America deserved from the world community the last 8 years is over.

More importantly, Obama’s bungling by making it all about him, and his putting the prestige of the Presidency on the line without any expectation of success on the eve of important negotiations about Iran’s nuclear program, would have had real bite.

Instead, it now looks like Republicans were rooting for their President to fail while he went overseas trying to do something good for his country.  The Republican leadership in the House of Representatives has rarely missed a chance to miss a chance over the last decade or so.  Their record continues.

On a side note:  Keith Olbermann explained his recent absences from Countdown thusly:  “First, briefly, a note about my attendance record here, which has been lately, anyway, pretty spotty. I mentioned a couple of times on the air here that my father is ill. The last few days have been critical to his recovery and I’ve been fortunate enough to be with him at the expense of not being able to be here. I expect this will happen again… I don’t want to go into too much detail about dad except to say that the most recent news was very encouraging, the people working with him, from the specialists to the nurses to the X-ray techs, have been phenomenal. And later on I intend to give them a fuller thanks.”

Keith, do those outstanding medical professionals know your goal is to make them all federal employees?

So, here’s a prayer for Keith’s dad, and a commendation to him for taking the time to care for him and for having the right priority when it comes to those he loves.

And he can be secure in the knowledge that in his absence, Laurence O’Donnell continues the gratuitous slams of Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Michelle Bachmann; while continuing the Countdown echo chamber of The Nation’s Chris Hayes, socialist Senator Bernie Sanders (always identified as merely an “Independent”), Senator Jay Rockefeller, Newsweak’s Howard Fineman, and the like.

The Meltdown will continue unabated, as long as Republicans and fringe conservatives stick to their principles and do not succumb to mere Obama Derangement Syndrome.

  1. October 3, 2009 4:38 am

    The “birther farce”?

    “The messiah” is hiding something. I don’t think “Frontpage’s” claim of Machaivillian cleverness rings true. Obama is hiding something with his hiding of the birth certificate. Foreign birth, making him uneligible for the presidency; bastardy (not having anything to do with his presidential eligibility). I’m not sure what but it is something and these ad hominem attacks would not affect me. Nor any name calling by Mr. Olbermann or the writer of this article.

    I also think one should write articles on what is possible and not upon what Keith Olbermann thinks (or what passes for thought with that person).

  2. October 3, 2009 4:40 am

    p.s. I really dig those icons of me and the others at the top left or our posts.

  3. David Forsmark permalink
    October 3, 2009 6:20 am

    There was a birth announcement in a local Hawaii paper for Barack Hussein Obama, mmm mmm mmm! It takes a lot more imagination that I have to think it was planted there by black helicopters 48 years ago on the off chance that America would be willing to elect a President with a Muslim name in a mere 47 years. Seems like if they were planning that far ahead,they would have named him John Fitgerald Obama, or Harry S. Obama, maybe even George Washington Obama.

    Reasons for criticizing the BHO Administration is a target-rich environment. There are at least a hundred good ones, so focusing on one that makes the critics look like Moonbats– or is so nakedly a political cheap shot that it has no effect– is just stupid.

    To turn Boehner’s argument back at him– There are so many things wrong with this Administration that we should not be distracted by being this silly.

    One of those arguments could have been, Barack Obama lost the Olympic bid because he made a presentation based on ego, to a room so full of egos that it was bound to fail, or that he based his argument on trashing the United States as an international rogue nation that has been transformed by his election into a decent partner in the world. Instead, too many on our side led with a dumb argument because they thought it must be in the bag already, or he would never have stopped in Copenhagen so they were just trying to dull the edge on his victory. Dumb dumb dumb.

    • October 3, 2009 11:31 am

      mmmm… mmmm… mmmm… That is not sufficient. They’re not even really sure what hospital he was born in. His mother Stanley would not want his birth recorded in Kenya because the father could’ve taken “the Messiah” back there. Pamela Geller noted how what purports to be the paper’s spacing and wording is not in accord with the usual birth announcements from there mmmmm mmmmm mmmmmm.

      I doubt you saw the actual paper. What you may have seen is something that purports to be a reproduction on the internet.

      • October 3, 2009 11:43 am

        Here’s a book you should read:

        • David Forsmark permalink
          October 3, 2009 11:50 am

          we should probably remind him that The Davinci Code is fiction, while you’re at it!

    • JamesB permalink
      October 4, 2009 2:14 am

      I have no doubt in my mind that there was a birth announcement in the Hawaii newspaper back when BO was born. It exists, but it proves nothing. Let me explain…

      It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that birth announcements are gleaned from stopping by the local hall of records and seeing what new items have been filed, as is any news requiring public registration (such a marriages, deaths, births, etc).

      Now it is know that a Hawaiian citizen who gives gives birth outside of Hawaii can then record that birth with the Hawaiian government. Once this filing is done, any newspaper can then couch a birth announcement from it’s details. Given the LACK of details in the Hawaii BO birth announcement one could safely assume that these details were missing from the record of birth the newsman reported from, as one would expect from a non-local birth.

      There is NO argument that BO was born to a Hawaiian citizen and a Kenyan citizen, or that the birth then was recorded in Hawaii. The newspaper birth announcement’s lack of details actually strengthens the idea that BO was not born in Hawaii!! There is nothing about that announcement that in anyway refutes BO’s birth outside of Hawaii, and it’s sad that it’s the only thing “anti-birthers” can fall back on – why it’s almost ‘liberal’ in it’s execution!!

      Even if BO were to be found to have been born in Kenya, it is unlikely that Congress or the Supreme Court could OR would do anything about it, it truly is a false hope of removing BO from office before 2012.

      But I for one am DYING to see what’s worth $1.4million to hide from public scrutiny!! People LOVE a mystery sandwich, and let me tell you these beat Subway’s $5 Footlongs!!!

      BTW- More importantly though is that BO is NOT an American citizen, but an Indonesian citizen. His mother renounced his citizenship for him so that he could attend school in Indonesia, and at this point in time BO is in fact an illegal alien because his mother renouncing his citizenship is legally binding because of his age. The ONLY path for him to regain US citizenship is thru naturalization. This would make him inarguably unqualified to be the POTUS, and then Congress and the Supreme Court would have to act!

      One doesn’t need his birth certificate for that, whether he was born in Hawaii becomes a null issue…

  4. JeffT permalink
    October 3, 2009 7:55 am

    Hey, I lived through eight years of BDS, so this is nothing. During Bush’s tenure, we had books and movies made about the assassination, or possible assassination, of Bush. I don’t think the Left blinked an eye. If so, I missed it.

  5. politicalmoxie permalink
    October 3, 2009 10:06 am

    One of the funniest things I have read in my life is Bernie Golberg’s book, “A Slobbering Love Affair”, Chapters 2 & 3. In Chapter 2 Pansy Ball, he goes after Chris Mathews & in Chapter 3 Good Night And Go… Keith Olbermann. His thoughts on a journey inside Olbermann’s mind made me laugh so hard the dogs woke up.
    So NEWSREAL keep visiting these “there’s no hope” personalities. I do and it makes me more and more sure of my sanity, something, at times, I have questioned in my life.
    Unfortunately, the book was written before or just as Maddow arrived at MSNBC. It’s just as well, Bernie’s going to need an entire book to comment on her issues…there are so many.

  6. October 3, 2009 10:16 am

    I think a military coup to overthrow Obama is a great idea.

  7. Judy permalink
    October 3, 2009 11:05 am

    The Obama’s were apparently shocked and disappointed that ChiTown lost out on the bid. Huh???? They have spent the past nine months traveling the world bashing America and complaining about anything and everything in America. They spent more time blaming America for all of the world’s ills than of it’s place in history as a good and noble place, and now cannot understand why anyone would not want to bring the Olympics to such an obviously bad country like the U.S. Are these two Ivy League educated dunderheads kidding????They did more to sabotage any prospect of the Olympics in America than anyone could have dreamed of. (Not that I wanted to absorb any of the additional taxes that would have been forced upon us to pay off another debt. I am glad Rio got the job).

  8. Judy permalink
    October 3, 2009 11:11 am

    Just a side note. Can someone please make sure that Olbermann takes his daily meds??? With all of the buffoons in Washington, we are going to need straightjackets soon. Maddow is a lost cause, she already jumped off the cliff. We do not even need to consider a military coup in the U.S. We need a bring back the Constitution coup. I fear that with Obama’s upcoming private “well organized, well armed civilian army” we are all going to need help.

  9. October 3, 2009 11:44 am

    Oh btw… I found this: No Hawaii hospital declares that Obama was born there

    It’s going to take more than your cheap ridicule of me to frighten me into silence. Where did you pick up your tactics from? Saul Alinsky? mmmmm mmmmmm mmmmmm!

    • Ryan Abbey permalink
      October 3, 2009 12:50 pm

      @ Underzog
      I wouldn’t worry about it if I were you. The editors and leaders on this site obviously don’t care to comment or objectively consider the facts behind the birth controversy, and instead read off progressive talking points. It’s OK. We all fall for it sometimes. Keyes lawsuit in California has been sent ahead to full trial scheduled for early January. The discovery has been blocked for now though.

      I get if some conservatives don’t want to spend energy or political capital on this issue. Some folks, especially those that may first open their eyes to the lies and start resisting the propaganda of the progressives may be reviled by those who support the birther movement. As well, some Americans just don’t care about constitutionality or honesty, so what will taking their messianic leader out of office do but cause widespread economic disaster and rioting?

      Maybe I should be labeled a coward, but I appreciate not dealing with further domestic unrest from the leftists. Debunking the Marxist utopian fantasies should be conservatives number one goal if we’re to make any headway toward restoring some sanity over the long term in this nation as well as globally. My imagination of media and progressive leaders reactions to a judgment finding Obama ineligible, along with what they may lead their emotional followers into gives me the willies. That, and any military decision carried out by this administration would leave all of our soldiers with the label of “war criminal.”

      @ Forsmark
      All foreigners registering for a certification of live birth in Hawaii at the time Obama was born were automatically subjected and printed in the newspapers.

      While I really have no definitive idea of any truth regarding where Obama was born or where he may be currently holding citizenship, I appreciate the work of those attempting to find the truth.

      Underzon, I commented here because I was thinking about exactly the same idea conerning Alinsky bully tactics to Mr. Horowitz, FPM, and Ann Coulter. Might as well attempt to make “birthers” fringe and make sure you do nothing but demean and attempt to isolate them right? How’s that working out for you?

      • October 3, 2009 1:07 pm

        Ryan Abbey,

        I very much appreciate your remarks.

        I will say my honorable opponent, Mr. Forsmark (I mean that sincerely), does have a point — not as to any supposed illegitimacy of the “birther” issue, but of the need to oppose “the messiah” on more prosaic issues.

        If I wanted to clown around and have fun with these guys, I would’ve raised the illegitimacy of “the messiah’s” presidency in terms of the the missing 13th amendment issue here. You know, the hidden 13th amendment that claims that lawyers cannot hold higher offices such as congressman or president.

        My moderator “buds” here would be fitting me for a strait jacket then. Eeek!

  10. Judy permalink
    October 3, 2009 4:42 pm

    Ryan and Underzog,
    Focusing and then directing Conservative efforts towards more effective change in blocking the Obama administration program is much more effective that his birth certificate at this point. If you do find that it is invalid, so what, then Joe, dunderhead Biden will assume the presidency. I see no difference in these two incompetent communists. The end result will be the same. Therefore use your intelligence and perservence to go after the Progressive programs. They should be in your sights.David F’s viewpoint is always very focused and provides actionable choices to make an impact.. There are many targets in the Obama administration that will have more impact. The continued birth certificate question has become fodder for the left, and needs to be abandoned.

  11. marineseabee permalink
    October 3, 2009 5:04 pm

    In the first piece, it’s mentioned that the U.S. military is the only military that “has NEVER turned its guns on its own citizenry”.
    I suggest you read your American history again. I believe it was President Wilson who had the U.S. Army destroy the “camp” that American WWI veterans made in Washington, D.C. after WWI as a protest for not receiving just compensation for having served. Several veterans were fired upon and killed as a result.
    Because of this, I believe, the American Legion was founded to combat future transgressions against American veterans by the federal government.
    I “may” be inaccurate” as to why the veterans formed their camp, but they had a valid reason for doing so.

  12. October 3, 2009 6:46 pm

    I think you’re talking about something called the “Bonus Marchers” and that was under Pres. Herbert Hoover in the depression.

    The “Bonus Marchers” were WWI veterans who wanted their bonus earlier than mandated by the law and marched on Washington to get it. Pres. Hoover would not grant their request and sent Gen. Macauther and his aid, Dwight Eisenhower, to Washington D C where they crused the “Bonus Marchers.”

    Some say it cost Pres. Hoover the presidency.

  13. David Forsmark permalink
    October 4, 2009 7:17 am

    Underzog, you’re right about Hoover. Marineseabee, on Wilson, you’re wrong about the origins of the American Legion, too. The American Legion NOW looks out for vets and looks out for misuses and disrespect of the American Flag, but they were essentially used by Wilson as a domestic spying agency, as Wilson prosecuted people for speaking out against our involvement in World War I.

    The US military has been VERY occasionally used to quell domestic uprisings and Hoover’s use is very debatable, but it has never mutinied, tried to take control of any level of government, or acted independent of the elected civilian leadership. If you take what I said above to the nth extreme, you could argue that the Indian Wars or the Civil War contradicts it too, I suppose.

    Hope that clears it up.

  14. alinsky permalink
    October 4, 2009 4:54 pm

    All anti-Obama avenues should be advanced, including the birth certificate, Selective Service, Donald Young, etc, etc. However, his MOST dangerous anti-American activities should be attacked MOST.

  15. David Forsmark permalink
    October 4, 2009 6:22 pm

    Avenues that make the general public think you probably wear a tinfoil hat when you’re not in public should be the roads not traveled.

  16. Douglas permalink
    October 5, 2009 8:42 am

    Good job in not doing what Olbermann does: i.e., angrily bashing the opposition 100% of the time over everything.

    Just as it was appropriate for Nancy Reagan to order new china in 1981, in and of itself it was fine for Obama to try to get the ’16 Olympics for Chicago. However, in addition to the better Limbaugh strategy you pointed out, asking questions about which of Obama’s Chicago friends would benefit, and in what improper ways, would have been welcome. Unfortunately, the distinction between this and what they actually do is apparently too subtle for GOP officialdom, which seems too often to prefer maladroit kvetching.

  17. David Forsmark permalink
    October 5, 2009 10:17 am

    “maladroit kvetching” is adroit phrasing!


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