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Marc Lamont Hill’s Overrated Black People List: Michael Eric Dyson

October 11, 2009

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In a recent twitter the eminent Fox commentator Marc Lamont Hill asked his followers in exasperation,

Am I the only one who thinks that awarding Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize is ABSURD?!?!?!”

Hill coupled that with this:

Ok, now I HAVE to to start my ‘overrated Black people’ list. A NOBEL PRIZE? REALLY?”

We at NewsReal are going to take Hill up on this insightful suggestion (and we will also invite Mr. Hill to post his own candidates). For what Marc Lamont Hill has stumbled onto here is one of the tragedies of our time, inflicted on black people by progressives pretending to be their defenders. Shelby Steele has written an insightful book called White Guilt which examines how whites have rewarded behaviors by individual blacks with levels of incompetence that they wouldn’t tolerate for a second in themselves. They have done it in the name of enlightenment and “social justice.”  But the effect is just the opposite. It deprives blacks of the tests of self that make achievement possible. In Steele’s formulation,  “no one ever learned to jump higher by lowering the bar.” (There are no affirmative action athletes and consequently no black superstar’s credentials are questioned. ) Preferential treatment for blacks in intellectual fields undermines the real achievements of African Americans by casting doubt on any credential that they receive. This is an injury that cannot be repaired by more quotas, or by any quotas.

Barack Obama is a man of several obvious talents but a track record worthy of a Nobel Prize is not one of them (and being president probably isn’t either). Of course there are plenty of over-rated whites — Al Gore, an empty-headed, truth-challenged blowhard whose  politically correct prejudices got him a Nobel, an Oscar, and an opera at La Scala is obviously one.  But it is blacks who have suffered the most from affirmative action prizes and unearned promotions. We are launching this list as a service both to the African American community and the country at large, since this ongoing hypocrisy and the double-standards it supports hurt us all.

I will begin the list with my favorite black phony, Michael Eric Dyson, an overpaid professor of sociology at Georgetown University (previously DePaul and UPenn) who once gave an Ivy League seminar in Great Religious Thinkers (at the time he was a professor of “religious studies”) which was solely devoted to the religious works of the rapper, gangster and convicted rapist Tupac Shakur. The Boston Phoenix describes the perpetrator of this hoax as America’s “preminent black intellectual” thus implicating all black intellectuals in his ongoing farce.

Since the leftwing Yahoos rather than providing evidence that we have misjudged these cases will undoubtedly attack and defame the list as “racist,” I should point out that there are many obviously intelligent and worthy black intellectuals, just as intelligent and worthy — and in some cases more intelligent and worthy — than many of their white peers. These would include Thomas Sowell, Orlando Patterson, William Julius Wilson, Juan Williams, Shelby Steele, Walter Williams, and even Henry Louis Gates. Just for the record.

Our subject for today, Michael Eric Dyson, has just published a collection of his wisdom. It is titled Can You Hear Me Now? The Inspiration, Wisdom, and Insight of Michael Eric Dyson. It is designed to celebrate him as a modern-day prophet.  It comes with a blurb from President Barack Obama, as inflated as its subject:

“Everybody who speaks after Michael Eric Dyson pales in comparison.”

It comes with a blurb from the W.E.B. DuBois, Professor of the Social Sciences at Harvard’s W.E.B. DuBois institute comparing Dyson to….W.E.B. Dubois. It comes with an imprimatur vouching for Dyson’s scholarly credentials from (drumroll….) rapper Jay Z: “Michael Eric Dyson…is a world class scholar…”  but with no indication of how Mr. Z would know. Finally, Dyson’s book comes with a gag-inducing introduction by the prominent writer Dave Eggers titled “Telling the Truth Gently” (and killing me softly, too). Eggers describes the book as “wall-to-wall aphoristic wisdom.”

In fact, Dyson is a virtuouso of the meaningless sentence and the banal (often illiterately expressed) cliche. I can only provide a small sample, which I will simply quote, leaving it to readers to see if they can make any sense of them.

Obama

“In the adjectival sense in which we measure racial progress, Obama is not a black president, but a black president.” (p. 3)

Faith and Spirit

“Spirituality makes religion behave.” (p. 19)

Music

“Barry White’s heterosexual boudoir bravado and elaborate orchestrations are of a piece with the bohemian rhapsodies spawned in homeoerotic fields of play.” (p. 68) I think he means that lesbians are big fans of the late R&B singer Barry White.

Literature, Language and Learning

“The writer’s gift can make us see ourselves and our moral possibilities different than what our reality suggests.” (p. 73)

“I was born in language; I was nurtured in a rhetorical womb.” (ibid)

“Writing is ultimately about rewriting.” (p. 84)

“Try as we might to quarantine knowledge, it invariably sneezes on us far beyond its imposed limits.” (p. 85)


Justice and Suffering

Justice is what love sounds like when it speaks in public.” (p. 125)

Gender

“Femiphobia — the fear and disdain of the female.” (p. 157)

“Real men aren’t afraid of real women.” (p. 164)

Preachers and Preaching

“In the best black oratory, style is not juxtaposed to argument; in fact, style becomes a vehicle of substance.” (p. 170)

“Paying attention to how you say what you say doesn’t mean you have nothing to say.” (p. 174)

“Martin Luther King’s speech was a clinic in the use of the vocal instrument to vibrate in swooping glissandos and poignant crescendos. King showed that there didn’t have to be strife between lexis (style, such as metaphor) pisteis (argumentation and proof) as there is in Aristotle’s view of rhetoric.” (p. 178)

Race and Identity

“Race is not a card. It is a condition.” (p. 185)

“When O.J. Simpson took that long, slow ride down the L.A. freeway in A.J. Cowlings’s Bronco, it wasn’t the first time he used a white vehicle to escape a black reality.” (p. 188)

Leadership

“It is not hypocritical to fail to achieve the moral standards that one believes are correct. Hypocrisy comes when leaders conjure moral standards that they refuse to apply to themselves….” (p. 210)

Poverty and Class

“We’re still in the closet about class in America.” (p.260)

Wisdom

Bill Maher is one of the bravest and most brilliant social critics we have in the aftermath of 9/11.” (p.292)

“Tell the truth gently.” (p.294)

Editor’s Note: For a summary of NewsReal’s engagement with Hill, click here.

For Part 2 of this series click here.

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79 Comments
  1. David Forsmark permalink
    October 11, 2009 1:06 pm

    I guess we’re taking for granted that the list could be headed by Marc Lamont Hill…

    • October 11, 2009 6:45 pm

      Yes, you can start with this:

      http://www.marclamonthill.com/overrated-white-people-2-7385

      Overrated White People
      October 8, 2009 by Marc Lamont Hill
      On Monday, our nation will celebrate Columbus Day as a national holiday. Although Columbus was an immoral treasure hunter who merely stumbled upon a region that had already been “discovered” by indigenous non-white peoples, we continue to praise the vicious conquistador as a hero. In the true spirit of Columbus, I have decided to make my own list (partially tongue in cheek, of course) of overrated white people. (Yes, there are lots of overrated Black people too. Keep reading…) This list is not exhaustive, nor is it offered in any particular order:

      Elvis Presley – Elvis didn’t write his own songs, barely played the guitar, and was a worse actor than the entire cast of Belly. Despite being a cheap facsimile of Little Richard, he is still known as the “King of Rock ‘n Roll.” Only in America.

      Bill Clinton – Despite bombing Africa and the Middle East regularly, approving the Welfare Reform Bill, the Prison Litigation Reform Act, and “three strikes” legislation, Black folk regularly regard Clinton as a messianic figure. He may be better than Bush, but Slick Willie was far from a savior.

      Babe Ruth – While there is no doubt that Babe Ruth was the most dominant player of his era, he was also the beneficiary of smaller playing fields and a segregated league. Still, Ruth, rather than Hank Aaron or Willie Mays, is the single most celebrated player in the history of the sport.

      Bill Walton –Walton embodies hyperbole. As an announcer, Walton regularly refers to at least eight different players as the “best player in the world, bar none” and regularly refers to routine turnovers as “the worst play in the history of Western civilization.” As a player, Walton put together one of the greatest college careers in NCAA history and led Portland to a championship. Still, a career full of recurring injuries and his sixth-man role in Boston make Walton’s placement on the NBA’s 50 Greatest Players list dubious at best.

      Eminem – Without question, Marshall Mathers is a dope MC. His first two LPs (particularly the second) will go down as classics. Still, the genius label is too quickly attached to Em at the expense of more significant old school rappers like Kool G Rap and Big Daddy Kane, as well as contemporaries like Black Thought, Kool Keith, and Common.

      Tony Romo – From mishandled to untimely interceptions, Romo finds new ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Still, the Cowboys quarterback is considered a top-tiered QB.

      Justin Timberlake – Yes, he can dance

      . Yes, he can sing. But is he any better than dozens of Black R&B singers? NO

      Paris Hilton – What does she do again?

      For my next trick, I’ll make a list of overrated Black people. My top choice? Here’s a hint: it rhymes with Schmarack Chlobama

      • David Forsmark permalink
        October 11, 2009 7:09 pm

        Yikes! Other than Babe Ruth and Columbus, that’s a pretty good list! Though he’s mad at Clinton for all the wrong reasons.

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          October 13, 2009 4:12 am

          He is mad at Clinton because a Republican house and Senate along with popular support forced Clinton to do the politically savvy yet common sense reform of welfare. Clinton was loath to do it and suffered at the hands of Hillary for it. I can only imagine. I am sure Hill will never forgive him because it gave back to many black people and white there self respect and pride by learning they to can work and make a living and be an example to there kids instead of propagating generation after generation of famlies on the public dole

      • Swemson permalink
        October 11, 2009 7:15 pm

        Underrated Black People

        Mychal Massie
        Alan Keyes
        Art Tatum
        Oscar Petterson
        John Coltrane
        Jean-Baptiste Illinois Jacquette
        Miles Davis
        Charles Mingus
        Thelonius Monk
        Jon Faddis
        Errol Garner
        Duke Ellington
        etc…etc….etc…

        • David Forsmark permalink
          October 11, 2009 8:18 pm

          It’s hard to say John Coltrane is under rated. After 1964, he was over rated… same thing with Davis. Before that, incomparable! And Alan Keyes is over rated. He was once a powerful orator, then he started reading his own press clippings and believing he was as important as the sycophants around him told him he was.

          • Swemson permalink
            October 12, 2009 12:04 am

            I just listed some of my favorites, because I get nauseous listening to the way they idolize the rappers (is that really music?) these days….

            Just standing up for traditional values…. as best I can…

            • David Forsmark permalink
              October 12, 2009 7:07 am

              Swemson. You should read Stanley Crouch’s The All-American Skin Game, as someone who grew up when “jazz” meant either elevator music or tuneless honking and weezing, it changed my listening habits forever. It’s a devastating critique of how it became politically unacceptable to make good music in the jazz world in the late 60s– Louis Armstrong was called an Uncle Tom– and a great tribute to the great American art form.

              • Swemson permalink
                October 12, 2009 12:05 pm

                David…

                That’s why a lot of the greats wound up playing mostly in Europe…

                I knew 2 of the guys on my list pretty well.. One of them (Illinois Jack) was one of my favorite golf partners for over 20 years…

            • Jack Hampton permalink
              October 13, 2009 4:13 am

              Swemson
              I personally do not believe it is music. It all sounds the same.

              • David Forsmark permalink
                October 14, 2009 4:17 pm

                Jack, buy Miles Davis’s Kind of Blue, and if you don’t think it’s beautiful and cool, I’ll buy it off you and give it to someone else. Every noir soundtrack for the past 50 years has tried to imitate that album. Even my kids think it pretty great.

                • Jack Hampton permalink
                  October 15, 2009 5:26 am

                  Mr. Forsmark
                  I was referring to rap music. I have several LP’s by Miles Davis.

                  • Jack Hampton permalink
                    October 15, 2009 5:27 am

                    I inherited them from my cousin and have ear phones to listen to them.

                • Anthony permalink
                  November 10, 2009 6:26 pm

                  Enthusiastically agree.
                  I was lucky enough to have that CD for a while, and it quickly became a favorite. Nothing before or since can compare to it.

      • Walt permalink
        October 12, 2009 10:48 am

        Dr. Hill is a limited person who did not benefit from his education. I am amazed that he is holding a position at Harvard University. From all appearances, he would not be up to obtaining a teaching credential for K-12 at a teacher’s college. Dr. Hill is narrow minded, unintelligent, bigoted, and surprisingly ignorant.

        • AuntWie permalink
          October 27, 2009 5:05 pm

          I spent most of my career teaching 8th and 9th grades. A great many of the college professors I’ve known wouldn’t last a day teaching at that level. I’m not talking about classroom management, which is it’s own art, but those kids have ADD-type tendencies (I don’t mean that they’re ill, but that their thoughts fly around in seemingly random ways) and it takes both depth and breadth of knowledge to keep up with them.

          A PhD in “education” doesn’t make you an educator. It makes you and “educationist,” or one who is fluent in the vocabulary of a very narrowly defined field and who is otherwise pretty much useless.

  2. michiganruth permalink
    October 11, 2009 1:42 pm

    you know…I think I’m starting to like this guy. Hill I mean, not Dyson. Dyson is clown shoes.

  3. fiftyfifty permalink
    October 11, 2009 3:42 pm

    You people are turning into prisoner’s of hate is to allow old and new walls to divide us from one another is to sacrifice greatly the freedoms of America.

    • Swemson permalink
      October 11, 2009 3:58 pm

      Come again… in English this time..

      • fiftyfifty permalink
        October 11, 2009 5:59 pm

        swemson your motto must be === priggishness

        • Swemson permalink
          October 11, 2009 6:17 pm

          No you illiterate moron, my motto is:

          TANSTAAFL
          ( There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch )

          • fiftyfifty permalink
            October 11, 2009 6:38 pm

            shrimpson are you asking me to buy you lunch I will if you can fine
            your way out of your mommy’s basement.

            • Jack Hampton permalink
              October 13, 2009 4:18 am

              Fifty Fifty
              Seriously can you explain that a little better. I am asking for an honest explanation?

      • October 12, 2009 7:59 am

        OK guys. That’s enough.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 13, 2009 4:16 am

      Could you expound on that a little more?

  4. Buzzard, Richfield OH USA permalink
    October 11, 2009 5:15 pm

    After you’re done with Dyson, move on to Henry “yo mama” Gates, the alleged PhD in English Lit (who lists no dissertation or equivalent research on his CV however) and who doesn’t know Robert Burns from William Shakespeare. Yeah, Skip Gates is a fine role model for Blacks who aspire to acdemic competence.

  5. David Forsmark permalink
    October 11, 2009 5:49 pm

    Muhammed Ali
    Cornell West
    Nathan McCall

    • Ben permalink
      October 12, 2009 9:05 am

      Cornell West, aside from looking like an angry troll http://www.abovethelaw.com/images/entries/troll%20treasure%20troll%20doll%20patent%20troll%20Above%20the%20Law%20blog.jpg
      is one freaky communist “intellectual.” Haven’t seen one instance of him using logic, ever.

  6. October 11, 2009 6:16 pm

    Al Sharpton in a Presidental debate when asked a question about the Federal Reserve by Peter Jennings he appeared not to know what the Fed was. They gave him a pass, and the only one to even comment on this flagrant lapse of knowledge was Krauthammer. Al ought to be on the list.

  7. Per permalink
    October 12, 2009 3:21 am

    And the fairly tanned G.W.Bush was rated as both university-graduate and fighterpilot. The list goes on and on doesn’t it ?

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 13, 2009 4:21 am

      Per
      Bush was a fighter pilot there is no question about that. He also graduated from Yale and has an MBA, No question about that. I guess I am missing your point.

  8. Dale permalink
    October 12, 2009 3:42 am

    I want the money not the peace prize. Is President Obama going to give all that money to the poor like he wants us to?

  9. jac mills permalink
    October 12, 2009 4:03 am

    David H: Is the Juan Williams in your list of black intellectuals the Fox News contributor JW? Or maybe there is another JW who actually IS an “intelligent and worthy black intellectual.”

    • Julie Trevor permalink
      October 12, 2009 6:04 am

      Jac Mills,

      Having come to appreciate the wit and wisdom of Juan Williams (it took some time), I’d be interested in why you wouldn’t include the JW, Fox News contributor in the list?

      Julie

  10. jac mills permalink
    October 12, 2009 4:08 am

    I meant to add in my last post that Marc Hill may be many things, but he is not dumb, is he? He has everyone writing about him. He is exploiting his “blackness” much better these days than even Al Sharpton, which must give Old Al the willies.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 13, 2009 4:27 am

      Jac Mills
      It is Bill O’really that has people talking about him if not for there bone headed choice of this guy I would have happily never heard of him. The first time I saw him I was embarrassed for him. I thought at first it was a spoof of some kind. I have never watched again. I now just watch certain segments of his show because he is bending over backward to try and land an interview with Obama. I believe in days a head you will see his viewership waning.

  11. David Thomson permalink
    October 12, 2009 5:02 am

    The overrated and often juvenile Michael Eric Dyson wrote one book that should be read by everyone. In 2000 he published I May Not Get There With You: The True Martin Luther King, Jr. Dyson accurately pointed out that the assassinated civil rights leader was a non-violent radical activist. And this most certainly was the harsh truth of the matter. MLK was not a moderate! He slimed the United States as a racist nation murdering innocent citizens in Vietnam—-and was a convinced socialist. Guilt tripped conservatives often wish to deceive themselves regarding the legacy of Rev. King. Unfortunately, Dyson has the much better argument.

    • October 12, 2009 9:56 am

      Don’t believe everything (or anything?) that Dyson writes. King — the King of the Civil Rights Acts was certainly a centrist and even conservative. We on the left — including SNCC and the Panthers and SDS — regarded him with suspicion. We didn’t want integration into the American system which we regarded as the Great Satan. Consequently, King was pushed aside in 1966 and had no following. Under pressure from the left he gave the worst speech of his career — the one about Vietnam — in order to regain his popularity among activists. The later Father John Neuhaus, then a radical, either wrote the speech or had an enormous influence on it. Martin Luther King’s message — America should be a society with a single standard for whites and blacks is anathema to the left and they have spent the last forty years subvertiing it.

      • David Thomson permalink
        October 12, 2009 1:55 pm

        There are also some who argue that Andrew Young and committed Communist Stanley Levison also did some ghostwriting for Martin Luther King, Jr. On top of that, we cannot ignore his outright theft of other peoples’ writings. Further evidence of MLK’s non-violent radicalism is found in the collection of essays allegedly authored by him entitled The Autobiography of Martin Luther King, Jr., edited by Clayborne Carson. He listened closely to socialists Gunnar and Alva Myrdal. King was also enamored with Ghana’s Kwame Nkrumah and Mahatma Gandhi—and both of them were staunch anti-capitalists. By the time of his death, King was committed to affirmative action and wealth redistribution. He had every intention of turning the United States into some sort of socialist utopia. Barack Obama is merely following in King’s footsteps.

        *Please note that I do not dispute Rev. King’s pacifism. That is beyond debate. As matter of fact, he was actually even more non-violent than Gandhi!

        • October 12, 2009 2:03 pm

          You’ve ignored Horowitz’s arguments and chose to just continue your monologue.

          Please provide evidence that Martin Luther King, Jr. favored affirmative action. I would like a quote from one of his speeches or writings, sourced.

          • David Thomson permalink
            October 12, 2009 4:04 pm

            The following quotes might be helpful:

            “King was well aware of the arguments used against affirmative action policies. As far back as 1964, he was writing in Why We Can’t Wait: “Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic.”

            King supported affirmative action-type programs because he never confused the dream with American reality. As he put it, “A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro” to compete on a just and equal basis (quoted in Let the Trumpet Sound, by Stephen Oates).

            In a 1965 Playboy interview, King compared affirmative action-style policies to the GI Bill: “Within common law we have ample precedents for special compensatory programs…. And you will remember that America adopted a policy of special treatment for her millions of veterans after the war.”

            In King’s teachings, affirmative action approaches were not “reverse discrimination” or “racial preference.” King promoted affirmative action not as preference for race over race (or gender over gender), but as a preference for inclusion, for equal oportunity, for real democracy. Nor was King’s integration punitive: For him, integration benefited all Americans, male and female, white and non-white alike. And contrary to Gingrich, King insisted that, along with individual efforts, collective problems require collective solutions.”

            http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1292

            “The problem with this view is that King openly advocated quotas and racial set-asides. He wrote that the “Negro today is not struggling for some abstract, vague rights, but for concrete improvement in his way of life.” When equal opportunity laws failed to achieve this, King looked for other ways. In his book Where Do We Go From Here, he suggested that “A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for him, to equip him to compete on a just and equal basis.” To do this he expressed support for quotas. In a 1968 Playboy interview, he said, “If a city has a 30% Negro population, then it is logical to assume that Negroes should have at least 30% of the jobs in any particular company, and jobs in all categories rather than only in menial areas.” King was more than just talk in this regard. Working through his Operation Breadbasket, King threatened boycotts of businesses that did not hire blacks in proportion to their population.
            King was even an early proponent of reparations. In his 1964 book, Why We Can’t Wait, he wrote,

            No amount of gold could provide an adequate compensation for the exploitation and humiliation of the Negro in America down through the centuries…Yet a price can be placed on unpaid wages. The ancient common law has always provided a remedy for the appropriation of a the labor of one human being by another. This law should be made to apply for American Negroes. The payment should be in the form of a massive program by the government of special, compensatory measures which could be regarded as a settlement in accordance with the accepted practice of common law.

            Predicting that critics would note that many whites were equally disadvantaged, King claimed that his program, which he called the “Bill of Rights for the Disadvantaged” would help poor whites as well. This is because once the blacks received reparations, the poor whites would realize that their real enemy was rich whites.”

            http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/epstein9.html

            • October 12, 2009 5:59 pm

              Just curious… How old are you? Did you live through the Civil Rights Movement?

              • David Thomson permalink
                October 12, 2009 6:58 pm

                I turn 60 years old on Wednesday—and I was right in the middle of the 1966 Detroit riot. I was also a drug abusing, longhaired, bead wearing immature hippie. Thankfully, I got my head somewhat on straight by my mid-twenties. I was even an elected Model Cities neighborhood representative. The black radicals turned me off and I realized that these whack jobs were going to do enormous amount of harm. This was especially true during the horribly destructive reign of Mayor Coleman Young. He literally encouraged a “get whitey” attitude. Sadly, I am not even slightly exaggerating.

                Martin Luther King, Jr. was a well-meaning and nonviolent man who believed in the welfare society. Violent activists like the Black Panthers were essentially marginalized by the larger white society. Few took them seriously. It took the perceived more moderate Rev. King to get any wealth redistribution schemes passed through the U.S. Congress. Left-wingers, as matter of fact, wasted no time after his assassination to guilt trip Lyndon B. Johnson and most members of Congress to pass some unbelievably destructive legislation. The heck with mere good intentions. They are just not good enough. The road to hell is paved with them. Those Great Society programs severely damaged Detroit and the lives of countless Afro-American citizens.

              • Jack Hampton permalink
                October 13, 2009 2:58 am

                David
                I lived through that era I was very young and was in the Army when he was killed and I also knew a cop that was retired already when I met him that was on the King detail. This is one conspiracy I know existed and he knew as well. There was just to much money behind a petty crook like Ray the new Mustang and living high trips abroad. Ray had a handler. At first he thought it was funny money but it was real greenbacks. Now Ray fired the shot that killed King but someone was funnling money to Ray. This is different than the truther nuts there is substance here and every cop knew it.

                • October 13, 2009 7:19 am

                  You’re quite right that wondering about King’s assassination is different than the Truther nuts. The smaller a potential conspiracy is the higher likelihood it has to potentially be true. It’s not crackpot conspiracism to think that perhaps someone other than Ray was involved in King’s murder. It would be crackpot conspiracism, though, to assert with certainty something like “the federal gov’t killed King” or “the New World Order killed King” but it’s clear you’re not barking up that tree.

            • October 12, 2009 7:01 pm

              There’s not a quote from King cited that justifies Thomson’s conclusions. The statements are all vague and could be interpreted in different ways. King died in ’68 campaigning for garbage workers on strike not for racial preferences. Just think about how stark the hypocrisy would be if Martin Luther King campaigned for racial preferences. This was something inflicted on the nation by Jesse Jackson and Richard Nixon, years later

              • David Thomson permalink
                October 13, 2009 3:50 am

                Martin Luther King, Jr. did not dare to openly campaign for racial preferences. He instead appeared to opt for uttering somewhat ambiguous statements as if he were trying to have it both ways. Did he reject the views of ghostwriters Stanley Levison and Andrew Young? There is also another disturbing question that cannot be ignored: why didn’t the vast majority of King’s followers oppose the affirmative action polices of the Nixon administration and the disastrous 1971 U. S. Supreme Court decision, Griggs vs. Duke Power? Would they not wish to remain loyal to his memory?

                The very brave and nonviolent MLK was a deceitful man in many ways. He hid his scandalously promiscuous lifestyle and didn’t hesitate to steal the writings of other individuals. One would be well advised to also read Theodore Pappas’s Plagiarism And The Culture War: The Writings of Martin Luther King, Jr. and Other Prominent Americans. Eugene Genovese thought highly of the book.

            • Jack Hampton permalink
              October 13, 2009 4:46 am

              Well Lyndon Johnson and the Democrats did something special for the negro as King wanted The Great Society Program and affirmative action. “My My it certainly has been special” it has practically destroyed the black family which before had been the solid back bone of the black comunity. But it did however put the black vote in the pocket of the America hating left wing democrats.

              • Jack Hampton permalink
                October 13, 2009 4:50 am

                One of Kings closet confidents I cannot recall his name now says that king spent the night before his death in his capacity as a minister trying to show a young prostitute the error of her ways by beating the devil out of her. Literally.

                • Swemson permalink
                  October 13, 2009 12:13 pm

                  Well he certainly wasn’t the only “man of god” who spent lots of time with hookers…

                  • Jack Hampton permalink
                    October 14, 2009 3:17 am

                    Swemson
                    That is true but most of them did not beat the crap out of the hookers. So do some bankers and some accountants and even some politicians. King David who was the most beloved of God failed as well. Christians are humans they fail and fall short in life. But they have the oppertunity like everyone else to correct there behaviour and seek forgiveness. The left that we abhor so much and damage our country use that very argument to attack any Chrictian. It is kind of like the race card it is not working any more. Of course I am not referring to you being a lefty attacker. I know you are not.

  12. semus permalink
    October 12, 2009 6:12 am

    The comment about Babe Ruth wasn’t fair or accurate just check the record books, he started out as a pitcher. Also Hill wrote;

    “Columbus was an immoral treasure hunter who merely stumbled upon a region that had already been “discovered” by indigenous non-white people”

    Is this what Hill really wanted to say ?

    I’m aware of some of Hills positions. He’s a laughably dishonest race Huckster, and a charlatan. Laughable because he’s not very smart. He does defend murderers which is nothing to laugh about. Overall I believe Mr. Hill’s a transparent light weight. Most people will see through him with no trouble.

  13. Jack Hampton permalink
    October 12, 2009 6:37 am

    Semus
    You have said it very well. Congrats you get it.

  14. jac mills permalink
    October 12, 2009 6:40 am

    Julie T:

    Sorry, I am afraid that my perception of JW does not extend to “wit and wisdom” as yours obviously does. He may appear intelligent and to be an intellectual while debating O’Reilly(who wouldn’t?), but I recall so many times on the 6 p.m. Fox panel how he argued with Brit Hume so ineffectively and absurdly that I felt embarrassed for the man. He may have qualities I cannot see yet, but I always have hope.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 12, 2009 11:07 am

      JW
      Has a couple good qualities one he is not an off the deep end leftist like Hill and He believes in Black men taking responsibility for there families and conduct. Now is he ever going to be barry Goldwater or Ronald Reafan no but I will take him any day over most white leftist.

  15. Jack Samwell permalink
    October 12, 2009 7:12 am

    How about overrated comedians? I particualarly have in mind Conan Obrian. I have no idea what prompted nbc to make him host of the Tonight show. Didn’t anyone else want the job or are they like the civil service and promoting based upon seniority? Few people have the talent to write humor and to present it in a stand up or host fashion. Conan completely lacks any comedic stage presence. He never had it and never will. I’m not saying his material is funny, just that he could never make it so. Maybe he should go back to writing for someone that at least has stand up talent — say, Jay Leno. Imo the Tonight Show still looking for a replacement for Jack Par.

    • October 12, 2009 7:49 am

      Well that’s certainly a contrarian opinion.

      • David Forsmark permalink
        October 12, 2009 9:24 am

        and irrelevant, Conan is about as WHITE as one can possibly get!
        lol

        • Jack Samwell permalink
          October 12, 2009 12:18 pm

          the truth is never irrelevant. (maybe misplaced)

          Hey at least now they can’t so easilly say that david has a one sided racist blog.

  16. October 12, 2009 11:42 am

    Dyson writes about the famous to place himself on the map.His book on Motown and Marvin Gaye was factually incorrect. He’s not even a minor writer. He misses substance, because one has to be substantive and have studied what is to know it, let alone write with substance.

  17. therealend permalink
    October 12, 2009 12:23 pm

    Let’s ignore the skin color thing and make it an integrated list because the only thing you can really tell about a person from their race is which continent their ancestors came from. In regards to being over-rated, black over-ratees = white over-ratees. How can anyone make a meaningful distinction?

  18. Eleanor permalink
    October 12, 2009 1:32 pm

    I try to avoid Lamont Hill, but I do recall his calling Michael Jackson on the O’Reilly show “the greatest musical prodigy/genius since Mozart.” Now that has to make the list.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 13, 2009 3:11 am

      Mozart was writing very complicated music by the age of ten years I believe. The comparison between him and Jackson who was a good singer and showman is absurd. The chasm in there intellect was as wide as the Grand Canyon.

  19. cee permalink
    October 12, 2009 1:34 pm

    My vote for overrated Black person of the year is Michael Steele, I still don’t understand how he went from being the failing contender for a senate seat after a lackluster 4 years as Lieutenant Governor and a failed contest for chair of the RNC to finally heading the RNC. Most of us here in Md hold him in slightly better standing than Allen Keyes. After several failed campaigns here, Keyes moved to Illinois where he ran a few more failed campaigns.

    Now for Underrated Black person I would choose another Md person. Elijah Cummings is not my congressperson, I’m in another district. But he has assiduously worked to reflect his districts views, he is easy to talk to and always able to help his constituents.

    there are way too many overrated White People for me to even start.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 13, 2009 3:52 am

      Was it Elijah Cummings that made the comment on the house floor about the millions of slaves tossed over board from slave ships so that sharks to this very day swim those waters looking for black blood? Probably the dumbest thing ever uttered on the house floor. Yep Steele lost his bid for election but he did not give up he keeps working. J.C. Penny was over fifty years of age before he opened the now famous retail stores. Steele very easily could have gotten elected if he moved to a very liberal white and predominately black district and promise everyone free health care, reparations and a check every month and in the words of a now infamous Obama supporter “I won’t have to worry about putting gas in my car or paying my rent now” I do not agree with Steele on every issue but he is head and shoulders above Maxine Waters, Barney Frank, Jay Rockefeller or the pride of Detroit John Conyers who has managed so far to escape indictment but his wife may rat him out for a lesser sentence during the current investigation. Steele was someone I believe that could have worked for all and been a beacon for the black community as well.

  20. politicalmoxie permalink
    October 12, 2009 2:26 pm

    To cee…I plan on finding out about Eliijah Cummings…Thank you for bringing him to the attention of folks outside of Maryland.
    As for Dr. Hill, I shake my head at his desire to extend his 15 minutes of infamy.
    And you not wanting to start a list of overrated white people…I laughed so hard (as I always say) the dogs woke up.

  21. Keith permalink
    October 12, 2009 3:03 pm

    The media is used as a platform to over inflate their accomplishments and in some cases, create a facade of who they really are.

  22. Darby permalink
    October 12, 2009 3:49 pm

    If one actually takes note of how easily Juan Williams is duped by a small town stripper and how “fair” he is in his reporting, they might reconsider his objectivity and rank.

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5484069

  23. Joe Hamilton permalink
    October 13, 2009 4:21 am

    The comment about Babe Ruth is totally absurd. Number one: the size of the ball parks weren’t smaller but much larger.
    For example, the Polo Grounds where Ruth played his first few years as a Yankee was almost 500 feet to Center field. As to the issue of segrated leagues ,baseball is unique when it comes to a batter’s statistics. It is an individual duel between only the pitcher and the hitter.
    Blacks at their height of achievement in the Major Leagues, did not dominate pitching in any way.
    So even if blacks played in MLB during Ruth’s time , it would not have made much difference. In addition to much longer distances Ruth faced to hit home runs, the rules for pitchers were outrageously in favor of pitchers. They used the same ball , if at all possible for the entire game. The pitchers loaded the ball with such substances as grease, spit and other substances.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      October 13, 2009 10:58 am

      Joe
      I have been checking that out with a former Major League umpire that is retired many years he is saying pretty much the same thing you are saying plus he adds the games were a lot rougher and there was not as much protection for the hitter and it was not uncommon for pitchers to seriously go after hitters.

  24. Terry permalink
    October 13, 2009 8:37 am

    “Try as we might to quarantine knowledge, it invariably sneezes on us far beyond its imposed limits.”

    I have t admit I like that one. It speaks a good warning to Obama.

    And I want to add Thomas Sowell to the list of underrated black intellects.

  25. TRUTH permalink
    October 14, 2009 5:18 pm

    BABE RUTH.You obviously think that simply because the mlb wasnt segregated that Ruth was OVERATED.The comment about the fields being smaller is totally false they were actually larger than the band boxes they play in now look it up.I guess Josh Gibson and Satchel Paige are overated cause they didnt play against white players?Yeah never looked at it that way huh? Bet you didnt know the non racist white players would play exhibitions against negro leagers and Ruth took paige deep think im lying?Do some research paige was waitng at home to shake his hand.The old negro players said he was one the best they had ever seen.O yeah he was also a hall of fame quality pitcher no player black or white can and never will be able to say that.

  26. MORE TRUTH permalink
    October 14, 2009 5:37 pm

    MAHHAMAD ALI is the most overated black athlete ever and anyone who hasnt seen HBOs documentary about the thrilla in manilla watch it even larry holmes says he was OVERATED.Before he was stripped of his belt he beat a suicidal overated drug addict in sonny liston a washed up old floyd patterson and a bunch of bums.As soon as he came across a great fighter like joe frazier he got whipped.Should have lost 2 out of 3 of those fights 2 out of 3 and a draw to ken norton.Lost to jimmy young and ron lyle but got rigged decisions because he was colorful haha.Got a give him credit for Foreman but Foreman was big goof and got played by ali.Ali was a loud mouth who spoke his mind not some god like martyr.So glad HBO made that documentary.OVERATED.

  27. MORE TRUTH permalink
    October 14, 2009 6:09 pm

    Is there one moment in all of baseball you wish you could have seen?

    I wish I could have been there when Babe Ruth pointed and hit the ball out of the ballpark in the 1932 World Series. I wish I could have seen that. But I did see something I admired just about as much, with Satchel Paige and Babe Ruth. This was in Chicago, after Ruth came out of the major leagues. He was barnstorming, playing with different teams, and he played us. Satchel was pitching and Ruth was hitting. Satchel threw Ruth the ball and Ruth hit the ball, must have been 500 feet, off of Satchel. Satchel looked at Ruth all the way around the bases and when Ruth got to home plate, you know who shook his hand? Satchel Paige shook Ruth’s hand at home plate.

    They stopped the game and waited, he and Satchel talking, until the kid went out, got the ball, brought it back and Satchel had Babe Ruth autograph that ball for him. That was some kind of moment.
    “From Buck O Neil former Kansas City Monarch of the negro leagues”

  28. moonbat5515 permalink
    November 15, 2009 5:35 am

    I’d have to agree on the absolute primacy of Miles Davis’ Kind Of Blue. As a music teacher I have given this album to many students, and not one- black, white, young, old, R&R, classical, rap, metal… no matter what style they were into- failed to appreciate the greatness of this recording. In one of Duane Allman’s last interviews he was asked about his listening habits. He replied that for the 6 months he’d been listening to KOB with the turntable arm flipped back- that’s “repeat play” for you analog challenged folks! It will NEVER be duplicated- as Bill Evans stated in the liner notes, it’s a Haiku.

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