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Comment of the Day: Understanding Liberation Theology

October 25, 2009
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Here’s someone who seems to know what he’s talking about commenting on Paul Cooper’s NewsReal Sunday post and responding to another commenter:
2009 October 25

The only research I need on this subject is the testimony of those who where and continue to be victims of the virulent Marxist version of Liberation Theology that still continues to haunt Central and South America residents.

Liberation Theology is another leftist sham in which the very same platform of the left, social justice, free housing, free health care, free food, free clothing, free everything, is taken almost whole cloth and wrongly given the association with Jesus and with the Catholic Church in particular!

I was raised in the Catholic Church, was in the Seminary, had an uncle who was monsignor in said church. Some of the most virulent leftists and liberals I have come across are priests and nuns for chrissakes! Do not try and tell me what “Liberation Theology” is and is not, been there done that, got the collar! Madre Dios!

Elements within the Catholic Church have long been identified as being sympathetic to communism and particularly to the Castro/Che inception of communism still causing trouble in Central and South America. We could not understand back here at home why priests and nuns where being murdered in the Central and South American conflicts, it was shocking and disturbing. But what many found out in latter years about those murders was more shocking and disturbing than the actual murders themselves.

The revelation that Catholic priests and nuns where giving aid, comfort, and material support to the communists was, by the time learned I learned of it, not surprising at all! Usually as long any clergy stays directly out of any conflict the combatants of either side will leave them alone. But when said clergy venture into the conflict via this Liberation Theology tripe for instance, then all bets are off from then on!

The Catholic Church throughout it’s history has walked a thin line in dealing with oppressive governments and tyrants, many times making choices that end up being deals with he devil himself, something which Jesus adamantly opposed. This is mostly because the Church is run and staffed by weak and fallible humans clinging to an old religious bureaucracy that has outlived it’s usefulness becoming the thing that Jesus hated and detested most, a pompous bureaucratic religious edifice! Just like the Temple in Jerusalem that he railed against because of what it had become! What else can we expect from an organization so rife with all the ills of any modern day socio-political behemoth!

So I am painting Liberation Theology with a broad brush, because it does cover a broad spectrum, a broad spectrum of liberal, communist, socialist, leftist ideologies! In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti, Amen!

America Again in 2010!

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10 Comments
  1. October 25, 2009 6:21 pm

    Incendiary comments such as Matthews’ are intended to shut down debate from anyone remotely advocating conservative ideals. Its main effect is not to elicit a meaningful debate but to shame anyone who opposes Lefists from speaking out.

    The remark has no value and cannot be defended in any forum.

  2. Elaine B permalink
    October 25, 2009 6:36 pm

    Tommy: Vatican II was the essential tool the Communist’s and Freemasons used to gain control of the Catholic Church. Of course they had help from the Father of Lies.

    Since then the church has implemented condenmed heresies, false doctrines and worships the devil rather than Christ.

    John Paul II and Benedict RATzinger not only let in the smoke of Satan that Paul VI didn’t stop but gave him complete control.

    • gatekeeper96740 permalink
      October 25, 2009 9:09 pm

      Father Malachi martin wrote about this as well in his book Windswept House.
      FR.Martin loved his church but Vatican two broke his heart.

      http://www.tldm.org/news/martin.htm

  3. gatekeeper96740 permalink
    October 25, 2009 7:36 pm

    The book the Jesuits by Father Malachi is an excellent book in this subject.
    http://www.amazon.com/Jesuits-Malachi-Martin/dp/067165716X

  4. theblanque permalink
    October 26, 2009 12:23 am

    It is also well known that the Catholic Church–through the efforts of John Paul II– helped bring down that edifice of communism, the Soviet Union. How, exactly, does that square with Mr. Barrios’s view–where would the West be today without that “old religious bureaucracy that has outlived it’s usefulness becoming the thing that Jesus hated and detested most, a pompous bureaucratic religious edifice”?

    Are there elements within the Church working against its interests today? Absolutely. As Mr. Barrios himself noted, it is filled with “weak and fallible humans ” (what else is it to be staffed by?)–it has always been such. But let us not forget that those “weak and fallable humans”, that “old religious bureaucracy” that Mr. Barrios is so quick to condemn stood against liberation theology–most poignantly exemplified by Pope John Paul II visibly berating Rev. Ernesto Cardenal for his Leftist sympathies during the Pope’s 1983 visit to Nicaragua (Cardenal thereafter left the Church to join the Sandinistas), and then-Cardinal Ratzinger’s repeated rebukes of Father Gustavo Gutierrez during the ’80’s and ’90’s. For all its corruption–yes, even to this day–the Catholic Church still stands as a witness to the Truth, despite the humanity of its members.

    But, then again, it’s the common theme–“the evil that men do live after them, the good is oft’ buried with their bones”; everybody loves to bash the Church for its failures, and never recognize it for its successes.

    • J Hampton permalink
      October 26, 2009 3:53 am

      theblanque
      Truly a superb comment and well thought out comment. You of course are right on the mark.

    • The Inquisitor permalink
      October 27, 2009 5:07 am

      For an excellent account of its successes I recommend “How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization” by Thomas E. Woods.

      Dr. Woods is an Austrian Economist who explains in easy to understand language our current economic crisis in “Meltdown” which I also highly recommend.

  5. jbtrevor permalink
    October 26, 2009 4:31 am

    I must say I was disappointed in the catch-phrase “Understanding Liberation Theology” when compared to the content of the comment.

    This was far more about trashing the Catholic Church and the people who steer her than eliciting any understanding of liberation theology and the rogue Catholics who bring shame to their Mother Church.

  6. October 26, 2009 7:42 am

    This comment was not about trashing the Catholic Church, it is the truth about the elements within the Catholic Church that still today are rank and file Marxists and socialists, the social justice crowd, if you please!

    The priest and nuns in Central America where siding with the communist death squads, while the US administration was siding with the ring wing death squads. Nobody came out of that conflict without blood on their hands, just ask Ollie North!

    Whether or not the Catholic Church as an entity was supporting the efforts of their errant priests and nuns is a matter of much debate and controversy! One thing is for certain the Church on the surface made no overt moves to stop their folks from participating in the conflict and giving support to Castro’s minions operating in Central and South America! The Catholic Church is not a democracy, it is an oligarchy which many adherents in the west tend to resist!

    The Church’s policies and practices are steeped in centuries of tradition and cannot easily be set aside, or so they profess! The being said, the Catholic Church has done more for the unfortunates of the world than many governments and is working today to do more, if only governments would get out their way they say! The Church is one of the most powerful and influential NGO’s on the planet, yet cannot operate very effectively without the blessing of whomever has political or military control of the area in which the Church wishes to operate!

    Therein lies the problem I pointed out of making deals with the devil in order to operate in some areas of the world. I do not wish any ill will against the Church they have been a God send to my family growing up when my father was institutionalized with Tuberculosis, twice! But I will not sit idly by, and NOT point out their fallacies, hypocrisies, and shine the light on those within who are NOT following the precepts of Jesus, but rather the voice of the deceiver who tempts men and women with evil in the guise of ‘social justice’ and all the other tripe of the Liberation Theology communists!

    America Again in 2010!

    • theblanque permalink
      October 26, 2009 12:59 pm

      This comment was not about trashing the Catholic Church, it is the truth about the elements within the Catholic Church that still today are rank and file Marxists and socialists, the social justice crowd, if you please!

      If that’s the case, why say this:

      This is mostly because the Church is run and staffed by weak and fallible humans clinging to an old religious bureaucracy that has outlived it’s usefulness becoming the thing that Jesus hated and detested most, a pompous bureaucratic religious edifice! Just like the Temple in Jerusalem that he railed against because of what it had become! What else can we expect from an organization so rife with all the ills of any modern day socio-political behemoth!

      Why tar the entire Church with the brush you want to strike liberation theology with? Why ignore the Church’s open refutation of liberation theology–such as Cardinal Ratzinger’s Preliniary Notes in 1984? If you seek to legitimately criticize the Church, you have to be specific as what you perceive to be its faults.

      As to the so-called deals with the devil–what do you propose the Church do? The Church only wields as much secular power as its members are prepared to give it–and in the West, that has been piss-all since the 19th Century.

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