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NewsReal Sunday: Chris Matthews says the Dumbest Thing In Television History

October 25, 2009
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Have you seen us in your church lately?

MSNBC host Chris Matthews may now have the honor of having said the dumbest thing in the history of television.  This past Thursday Matthews unfortunately allowed an imbecilic thought to pass from his brain to his mouth on his nationally televised cable news show.

Here’s the moment of insanity on video:

Matthews: “The group in this country that most resembles the Taliban, ironically, is the Religious Right.”

It is a pet peeve of mine when a cable news host drops a bomb (no Taliban pun intended) of a statement right at the end of a segment and moves on to something else.  He allows no time for a logical response to an illogical statement.

Does Matthews really think the Religious Right “resembles the Taliban?” Let’s look at this objectively by comparing them.

The Taliban ruled Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001 until they were removed from power by NATO forces. Why were they removed from power?  Because they were harboring and funding Islamic Fundamentalist terrorism all over the world – including the ones that flew planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.  They are a clear enemy of the United States.

The Taliban are known for wanting government to uphold the strictest form of Sharia law. They even add additional laws to it.  They are especially known for their degradation of women. Women are kept in oppressive attire and wife-beating is legal. The Taliban in Afghanistan also limited poppy production only for the purpose of driving up the price of Opium to provide them wealth – even though the Qu’ran forbids Muslims from producing drugs. Worst of all, right now US soldiers are being killed in Afghanistan by Taliban insurgents.

Now where exactly does Matthews see a resemblance between that and the Religious Right?  As someone who is a Christian and a conservative I’d like an explanation and an apology.  Christian conservatives are known as the most charitable segment of America. They believe in the moral principles of Jesus – who never promoted violence.  And while they speak out against things they believe to be social evils – they have no desire to make some legalistic form of Christianity to rule America.  Moreover, they do not support any form of terrorism, drug use, or abuse of women.  Where’s the connection Chris?

Chris, next time you want to make such a crazy comparison – remember that the Religious Right’s main goal is to be like Jesus.  Here’s a great Bible passage that most of us “Religious Right” try to follow:

I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him… 12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:10-14

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  1. Barmat permalink
    October 25, 2009 7:25 am

    Between Matthews and Olbamerman, I think they resemble that remark.

    • swemson permalink
      October 25, 2009 6:24 pm


      Don’t hold your breath, but I might get back to y’all later on this…

  2. MaryAnn permalink
    October 25, 2009 7:36 am

    Didn’t Rosie O’Donnell say the same thing about Christians and the Taliban? Thank you, Paul, this is a good article.

  3. David Forsmark permalink
    October 25, 2009 7:38 am

    Ron Jr. and Chris sure generated a LOT of stupidity in 6 minutes!

    • J Hampton permalink
      October 26, 2009 3:33 am

      I believe that is how Mathews manages to remain on the air. Stupidity and thrill is his stock in trade. Anyone that would compare the religious right with the Taliban of course is a moron. They are the same people that screamed Jerry Fawell was a hater when nothing could have ever been further from the truth.

  4. FelixPrismus permalink
    October 25, 2009 7:42 am

    I don’t know whether to laugh or shake my head in disgust

  5. October 25, 2009 8:41 am

    This why we need to call for a complete BOYCOTT of the MGMSM and ALL of their Advertisers! This along with the falling numbers they already have, will insure their complete and utter demise, until they fall back into the Edward R. Murrow school of journalism and methodology!!

  6. October 25, 2009 9:56 am

    I think the biggest problem with the likes of Matthews and Olbomberman is their proclivity to associate right wing nutbags with Christianity. They still have shades of Waco, The Montana Freemen and other such groups running around in their Jimmy Carter sized(peanut) brains as being representative of Christians, which is of course, patently false and libelous.

    While I do not profess to be a Christian my self, I do however agree with basic tenets of what Jesus taught which in my view, is more libertarian than say today’s image of a lefty liberal demoncrat or a right wing raving repubiclican. More of a live and let live philosophy than either of the two present diametrically opposed political oligarchies!

    It is obvious that slobbering left wing pundits like Matthews and Olbomberman have no clue as to what REAL Christians believe and practice, as compared to radical nutz who profess Christianity yet are like the Taliban, using religion to propagate hate and murder in the name of their particular twisted ideology!

    If Christians and Christianity are to effectively weather the present Marxist storm taking over our country then they need to come out strongly against any attempt to label them as radical! Christians also need purge any identified radicals from their midst by publicly exorcising these hate groups identifying themselves as Christian!

    This holds true also for the Muslims, if they do not condemn and excommunicate the killers and hate promoters in their midst, then they are doomed to being ostracized by western society, branded as terrorists and terrorist enablers!

    America Again in 2010!

  7. Captain Steve permalink
    October 25, 2009 10:19 am

    Matthews is a total buffoon. I haven’t watched him in years.

    • politicalmoxie permalink
      October 25, 2009 1:44 pm

      @ Captain Steve let me be so bold as to add to your comment…

      and I’ve heard I haven’t missed a thing.

  8. October 25, 2009 10:28 am

    Leftists have a knee-jerk tendency to resort to badly fabricated and inexplicable anti-Christian tu quoque logical fallacies no matter what the subject at hand may be. Any argument one may have against Islam in particular almost always elicits this sort of response, be it honor killing, FGM, anti-Semitism, or what-have-you. As Dennis Prager says, Matthews is so stupid he must have a PhD.

    Also, Tommy, one can make a good case that Jesus was a socialist, albeit a very peaceful one, overturning moneylenders’ tables aside. He was certainly no capitalist. On the other hand, he never considered himself any sort of political leader, so it’s basically irrelevant.

    Jesus and the Christian right are different things, though, and nobody seem to be looking out for our civil liberties more than the Christian right. The only thing they have in common with the Taliban is that they like guns.

    • Paul Cooper permalink
      October 25, 2009 10:39 am

      You cannot make a case that Jesus was a socialist – let a lone a good case. Believing that people should be charitable has nothing in common with believing the government can take people’s money to give to others. Jesus never ever argued for such a philosophy. Jesus believed we should willingly give by our own choice.

      You are right that you cannot call Jesus a capitalist – not because there is reason to believe he was against capitalism – but because Jesus never promoted a certain economic system. However, many of the principles of capitalism are seen in the teachings of Jesus.

    • October 25, 2009 11:50 am

      I agree with Paul, many murdering communists have used the teachings of Jesus as a spring board to instill their tyrannical murderous philosophies in Central and South America. It’s called “Liberation Theology”! Sound familiar to any you? Liberation Theology was picked up by the black communists in our country and converted into, you guessed it “Black Liberation Theology”! The very same trash that Jeremiah Wrong vehemently spouted in his den of perdition called a ‘church’, while Barack Hussein Obmomber sat there with his hideous commie wife and took it all in for twenty years!

      You see the black socialist movement has been for sometime, 30 years or more, moving into two major religions of the black community, the Muslims and the Christians! While they may have difference of opinion on who they worship, they both have one declared enemy in common, THE WHITE MALE & FEMALE!
      The white male establishment is the grand boogey-man of the black community and according to their vile precepts, should be eliminated “by any means necessary”!

      If you read carefully David’s book “Hating Whitey”, which is making a huge resurgence I hear, you will come to understand the diametric here and the mission of these two groups in conjunction with the present inculcation of the Demoncratic Party! Being born black in this country is not a reason to hate, yet many in the black community teach this hateful ignorance to their children thus perpetrating ‘divisiveness’ instead of their precious PC word “diversity”.

      Thus there is no true diversity on the left because they cannot and will not accept a ‘diversity ideas’. Also they will not accept that most of world does not really believe in enforced multiculturalism and never will, just look at Islam as an example! Fat chance getting ‘diversity’ to work there!

      • Mike permalink
        October 25, 2009 2:22 pm

        I believe Paul had a very reasoned response; and even though I could probably nit pick some of it it isn’t that important a discussion.

        I would argue, though, that you likely have not really researched liberation theology to make such a broad statement about it.

        For conservatives or liberals to use their theological presumptions as a statement about political systems is absurd. Jesus was neither capitalist nor communist, though perhaps he was a bit of a socialist since his people practiced communalism at least for awhile.

        • October 25, 2009 3:53 pm

          The only research I need on this subject is the testimony of those who where and continue to be victims of the virulent Marxist version of Liberation Theology that still continues to haunt Central and South America residents.

          Liberation Theology is another leftist sham in which the very same platform of the left, social justice, free housing, free health care, free food, free clothing, free everything, is taken almost whole cloth and wrongly given the association with Jesus and with the Catholic Church in particular!

          I was raised in the Catholic Church, was in the Seminary, had an uncle who was monsignor in said church. Some of the most virulent leftists and liberals I have come across are priests and nuns for chrissakes! Do not try and tell me what “Liberation Theology” is and is not, been there done that, got the collar! Madre Dios!

          Elements within the Catholic Church have long been identified as being sympathetic to communism and particularly to the Castro/Che inception of communism still causing trouble in Central and South America. We could not understand back here at home why priests and nuns where being murdered in the Central and South American conflicts, it was shocking and disturbing. But what many found out in latter years about those murders was more shocking and disturbing than the actual murders themselves.

          The revelation that Catholic priests and nuns where giving aid, comfort, and material support to the communists was, by the time learned I learned of it, not surprising at all! Usually as long any clergy stays directly out of any conflict the combatants of either side will leave them alone. But when said clergy venture into the conflict via this Liberation Theology tripe for instance, then all bets are off from then on!

          The Catholic Church throughout it’s history has walked a thin line in dealing with oppressive governments and tyrants, many times making choices that end up being deals with he devil himself, something which Jesus adamantly opposed. This is mostly because the Church is run and staffed by weak and fallible humans clinging to an old religious bureaucracy that has outlived it’s usefulness becoming the thing that Jesus hated and detested most, a pompous bureaucratic religious edifice! Just like the Temple in Jerusalem that he railed against because of what it had become! What else can we expect from an organization so rife with all the ills of any modern day socio-political behemoth!

          So I am painting Liberation Theology with a broad brush, because it does cover a broad spectrum, a broad spectrum of liberal, communist, socialist, leftist ideologies! In nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti, Amen!

          America Again in 2010!

          • October 27, 2009 11:35 am

            Tommy: Spoken from the heart, and so true. But it is not only the nuns and priests who are left wing liberals. There are thousands of Catholics who have been led astray confusing charity with policy .. in fact a right wing Catholic is something of a rarity!

  9. Ron Nelson permalink
    October 25, 2009 10:44 am

    I think Matthews identifies the Religious Right with a single issue — abortion. In his world, the attempt to return the abortion question from a court autocracy to a republican process (votes of the various state legislatures) forms his central confusion between the Religious Right and the Taliban. This, of course, is a total misreading of the motivations behind the two groups. The Taliban is clearly an autocratic society albeit claiming to be promoting God’s will. The Religious Right is clearly a republican society hoping that the electorate and legislatures will reflect Christian principles.

    What is disturbing in Matthews is his turning his back on republican values in favor of autocratic. Obama is his kind of autocrat, the courts over the past 30 years have been his kind of autocrat, the Taliban are apparently not his kind of autocrat. Matthews served as a staffer to Tip O’Neill. Apparently his work in the legislature made him more appreciative of the autocracy of party loyalty than to the republican process by which members are sent there.

  10. Marty Trout permalink
    October 25, 2009 11:39 am

    Chris is just doing what the left do. They accuse the right of things they are acutally doing. Someone compared both parties to the Nazi beliefs, sorry I don’t have the article close by, but guess who won? In flipping the other day I watched Chris and he lied within the first two minutes. He reported about FOX covering Anita Dunn’s “Joke about liking Mao”. Sorry Chris I saw the video, thanks to FOX NEWS, where she was telling that garbage to high school students. It was no joke. Thank You David, you are my hero! Great news about William & Mary, we all need to call/fax them to thank them and others who pass the green light. Freedom of Speech!

    • Mike permalink
      October 25, 2009 2:23 pm

      Define “garbage” for me. Did she outright lie?

      • October 25, 2009 2:42 pm

        99% of the rhetoric that comes out the pie hole of Maoist sympathizers like Anita Dunn is “Garbage”! DUH!

      • Swemson permalink
        October 27, 2009 11:46 pm

        Remember, as I said before, ALL of the news networks are right of center. It’s just that Fox News is the furthest to the right and lies the most.

        Why are you even here…

        You belong in the Massachusetts State Home for the Extremely Bewildered….

        WOW !

  11. Mark J. Koenig permalink
    October 25, 2009 6:23 pm

    Excellent post, Paul. It’s because of psychotic utterances such as the one you highlight here that Matthews has pretty much ceased to be relevant. His ratings speak for themselves. I’ll also say that were I in Frank Gaffney’s shoes, I might have insisted that I be given a certain amount of time uninterrupted to present a couple of unimpeachable facts. One has to expect that these invitations from Matthews and his ilk are set-ups for exactly the sort of shouting match/food fight that occurred here. Gaffney was ganged up on by Reagan and Matthews, and barely allowed to make a coherent statement without being interrupted and shouted down. I certainly would NOT agree to appear again without some basic ground rules. The whole thing was disgraceful, but I think Gaffney did the best he could under the circumstances.

  12. Mike permalink
    October 25, 2009 9:48 pm

    “America Again in 2010”
    Why isn’t it America now? Because Obama (the black, lightly liberal man) won? I thought it wasn’t America when our civil rights were shredded during the Bush administration and when executive power was everything.

    You, sir, must be anti-American since you are disagreeing with our president. (What was good for the Republicans…..)

    • October 27, 2009 11:34 am

      This is NOT the America I subscribe to sir! This is NOT the America set up envisioned by the founders! This is NOT a Federated Republic under law as the original America was setup under the Constitution!

      Further more that jackanapes in the WH is NOT my president as I do not support or condone socialists, communists, Maoists, Marxists, race-baiters, and all the other leftist lies and lunacy in the current administration!

      Here is video for you see that will explain why this NOT the correct version of AMERICA!

      IF after viewing this you are still Obomber’s ‘Dhimmi Boy’ then you and others like you, are the problem with America at the moment, just like “the one”!

    • Swemson permalink
      October 27, 2009 11:47 pm

      Hey Mike..

      Does the term dain bramage mean anything to you ?

  13. Crazy Otto permalink
    October 26, 2009 9:28 am

    As a leftist troll I am sure even you would admit that Anita Dunn’s comment praising the mass murderer of 70 million people was out of line.

    I would also add that your comments “(the black, lightly liberal man)”, You, sir, must be anti-American since you are disagreeing with our president. (What was good for the Republicans…..)reveal your agenda and your illness.

    • Mike permalink
      October 26, 2009 11:26 am

      I’m not sure where I am disagreeing with our president.

      As for being a “troll,” I am not because I am open about my liberal tendencies; and I am a friend of Paul’s as well. I often disagree with him and vice versa; but we are still brothers in our disagreement.

      BTW, I do not think Matthews was being totally outlandish; but he did go too far in his statement. When right wingers start killing people “for their faith” there is definitely SOME relationship that can be see in their behavior and that of Muslim terrorists. The faiths are both being forgotten in the midst of the anger. Neither faith calls for the murder of others in their best teachings.

    • October 26, 2009 12:05 pm

      Mike is not a troll. He may be wrong sometimes, he may be right other times, but I don’t consider him a troll.

  14. Mike permalink
    October 26, 2009 1:32 pm

    Me WRONG?!!!!

    Seriously, David, I appreciate your understanding that I am not trying to ruin Paul’s blog or be unreasonable in my assumptions or statements.

    I would still argue, though, that we certainly saw communalism in the early church. Why did it disappear? I don’t think we have the data/information to know for sure. It may have been that Caesar caused its destruction.

    I don’t believe we can live easily in such a communalistic state, though; and it easily becomes a “Jim Jones” or “Waco” situation if the leader is wacko.

    I have zero problem with socialism, however; and I find most of the reasons to oppose it to be bogus, especially if we’re looking at it from a Christian perspective.

    • October 26, 2009 2:05 pm

      Tell me how you define “socialism” and then explain how one could support it from a Christian perspective.

      • October 28, 2009 9:40 am

        Notice the crickets chirping cheerfully in the background;-)

    • Kevroc permalink
      October 26, 2009 10:29 pm

      I actually rated “up” Mike’s post. But, not because I have zero problem with socialism. I haev a huge problem with socialism in America.

      It is not even about the worry of a “crazy” leader.

      The system is all too altruistic. Human nature will fracture the system somewhere along the chain. It is extremely fanciful to think that such a system will be beneficial, especially with such a large population. This is all in my opinion of course.

      There is too much room for corruption.

      I believe that Capitalism and the free market system is best for this nation. We have been and can be the most charitable force in the world. A true beacon of freedom. We cannot collapse into a flat, stunted commune.

      There will always be leaders and followers. Alphas and betas. You cannot change this by force. It is the nature of humans.

      I feel a system that embraces this and uses it for the betterment of all civilians is our brightest hope. Just because some people are more successfull than others, does not mean that the less fortunate must live a suppressed life under the thumb of the affluent.

      Government keeps the peace and allows the freedom for the populace to make the most of themselves and contribute to society. We can boost each other up and grow together. You do not need to spread the wealth, you need to step back and ALLOW for the wealth to flow freely and grow.

      Government regulation to stop the unscrupulous among us from unabashed greed. Greed can hurt growth. But, let me be clear…

      Regulation NOT provision.

      Freedom NOT equality.

      Equality of opportunity is the equality that should be sought.

      Sorry for the rant but, in closing, it is not the governments job to take care of you.. which I believe the level society Socialism brings would do. It is the governments job to uphold freedom and regulate with a strong and steady hand. A watchdog of sorts, to ensure the system doesn’t fail due to the over zealous and greedy among us.

      My .02

  15. Dale permalink
    October 26, 2009 4:25 pm

    I want to sue Chris Matthews for degrading me as a right wing Christian. I am not like what he said. What are my rights.

    • October 26, 2009 4:43 pm

      First amendment might make that a waste of time.

    • October 27, 2009 11:51 am

      I am a die hard believer in the adage, ” The only way to deal with ‘objectionable speech’ under the First Amendment, is with more ‘free speech'”!

  16. October 27, 2009 11:01 am

    Didn’t maybe 3 or 4 people total see this Matthews idiot’s broadcast? What group of individuals even accepts an invitation to appear on the show? At some point being invited to appear on MSNBC will be like getting an invite to a H1N1 flu party. The only way you’ll go is if you are already infected with hopeless far left lunacy and completely immune to common decency. Nobody with A N Y intelligence watches so exactly what audience are guests looking to appeal to? I seriously doubt if even the camera crew pay any attention to what goes on on the set of MSNBC.

    • October 27, 2009 11:50 am

      You are absolutely correct. No-one watches the show but this site is forever giving it prominence. Why not simply ignore Matthews and his show.

    • Mike Mansfield permalink
      October 27, 2009 9:48 pm

      Actually a lot of people watch MSNBC, not including me. It isn’t on our local cable so I can only watch it on cable.

      When you listen to Rachel Maddow you will have a very hard time disputing what she says unless you are wearing the tin foil hat.

      Remember, as I said before, ALL of the news networks are right of center. It’s just that Fox News is the furthest to the right and lies the most.

      I am NOT saying that Rachel is right of center or even center, though; but there is Joe in the morning, a former REPUBLICAN member of congress.

      I remember when the networks were more centered than now; but they are all corporately driven today. They rant and rave to try to get the most viewers no matter what kind of trash they have to put out there.

      Why, for example, is so much time still spent on things like balloon boy when we have two wars going on?

      • October 28, 2009 3:11 am

        We are sooooh glad you watch the show and enjoy it. It is so kind of the institution to have cable for the inmtes.

        • October 28, 2009 7:07 am

          Oh Miki, you’re so fine, you’re so fine, oh Miki, oh Miki;-)

          Pop Quiz: Who sang it and when?

          Quick, No Googling!

      • October 28, 2009 9:09 am

        When you listen to Rachel Maddow you will have a very hard time disputing what she says unless you are wearing the tin foil hat.

        Tim and Alissa Birkel and myself beg to differ:

        • October 28, 2009 9:21 am

          It is about as hard to dispute Radical Maddcow as it would be to dispute the world is round instead of flat! Madre Dios!

          • October 28, 2009 9:36 am

            It’s just that Fox News is the furthest to the right and lies the most.

            Please show me what LIES Fox has been telling?

            The only LIES I have been hearing are the ones by the slobbering leg tingling hair raising MGMSM and it’s attendant sycophants, since Clinton and his “it’s all about sex” scandal!

            Maybe you’re going to tell us what the definition of “is”, is, next!

            America Again in 2010!

      • In the know permalink
        October 28, 2009 4:08 pm

        Yes, all American MSM is center right and right of the CCCP’s Pravda.

  17. October 28, 2009 8:34 am

    Was it Mini of mouse fame?

    • October 28, 2009 8:43 am

      Uh No!

      But maybe this will jog your marbles;-)


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