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Muslims Murdered His Son; Connecticut Town Tells Father to Shut Up About It

November 2, 2009
James Andrew Gadiel

James Andrew Gadiel

Although James Gadiel was just 23 years old, he was a young man with promise. Hailing from the small town of Kent, Connecticut, James Gadiel had already landed his dream job with Cantor Fitzgerald, the global financial services powerhouse, and by all accounts was heading for a very successful career with that firm.

On September 11, 2001, James Gadiel’s life—along with the lives of nearly 3000 others—came to an abrupt end when Muslim terrorists destroyed the World Trade Center, where James worked on the 103rd floor of the North Tower.

James’s grief-stricken father, Peter, tried to move on with his life, but as the years passed, something began to trouble him: he was coming to the realization that people were starting to forget exactly who it was that attacked us on the morning of September 11, 2001. He doesn’t want people to forget his son or the other victims, but he especially doesn’t want people to ever forget who, exactly, was responsible for the heinous acts of that day: Muslim terrorists.

And that’s why now, according to reports on The O’Reilly Factor and Sunday morning’s Fox and Friends, Peter Gadiel is in a heated controversy with the Town of Kent, Connecticut, which wants to erect a plaque in memory of his son.

The Town Board has rejected Peter Gadiel’s wording for the proposed plaque, deeming it “offensive,” and unless Gadiel changes the plaque’s wording, they will not allow it to be erected.

The wording of the plaque, the language of which the Town finds so offensive, is:

James Gadiel: Murdered by Muslim terrorists.

To Peter Gadiel, this is the central fact of the events of September 11, 2001, which he does not want glossed over.

Peter Gadiel: This isn’t a fact that is just overlooked—it’s suppressed. It’s simply wrong to imply that people just died; the buildings just collapse; they didn’t just fall down. We were attacked-by people with a specific agenda and for a specific purpose.

The city doesn’t want to offend Muslims.

Ruth Epstein, one of two Kent Town Board members who voted the plaque down, explained the Town’s position:

Ruth Epstein: We perceive ourselves as a very warm, loving Town, and to disparage any one ethnic group is against everything that we stand for here…we have at least one Muslim family here—with children—and it would be just awful to have them see something like that.

Gadiel eloquently disagrees:

Peter Gadiel: Muslims have to acknowledge that it was their co-religionists who committed this act in their name. I am offended, that unlike so many others, they [Muslims] refuse to acknowledge that it was their people who did this.

Gadiel makes a valid point. The whole affair reeks of a double standard.

Janet Napolitano, our own Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary, for example, had no problem with putting those who are anti-abortion or supporters of the Second Amendment on a “right-wing extremists” watch list earlier this year. It didn’t seem to matter to Napolitano and the DHS that most of those people were being unfairly targeted—if they were anti-abortion and/or owned a gun (and also had the misfortune to be white), they were, by Napolitano’s definition, potential terrorists.

Was this not offensive, and wholly inaccurate? Napolitano didn’t think so.

Mr. Gadiel is not using such a broad brush. He does not condemn Muslims. He does condemn Muslim terrorists. There is a difference.

That fact, says Mr. Gadiel, must be acknowledged in any memorial to his son, and he will not support any memorial that fails to do so.

We must never forget the victims of September 11, 2001.

And we should never forget who it was that murdered those victims.

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74 Comments
  1. Jack Peek permalink
    November 2, 2009 2:24 am

    Have a friend from Kuwait..am Muslim, married a Christan woman, he reminded me once there are 1 billion Mulims, and 10 percent want AMERICA dead.

    There is no hope for peace with those numbers, no matter how BHO, says we can “talk” to them.

    They cannot gain a foothold here.

    • Steve R permalink
      November 2, 2009 10:19 am

      My friend, they already have a foothold here! Look about you. Muslim prayer meetings on the Mall in DC. CAIR and its minions and hangers-on inserting themselves into, or creating “issues” over Muslin
      “rights”. Gert Wilders hounded off the podium at Temple University. And the “loving” townspeople of Kent, CT. Examples are everywhere. The point must be made, however, that the 10 radicalized percent of world Muslims see the rest of their co-religionists as apostates and just as worthy of killing as are Americans. In an ideal world that doesn’t excuse the silent ones who don’t take a stand. But, if you were in their shoes how quick would you be to stand up and be counted. Some few are, certainly, but too damn few.

      • November 5, 2009 6:57 am

        Thanks for the truth. Certainly there are many peaceful Muslims; I worked with a number of Muslim physicians before I retired. They were intelligent men and women who did not blame the U.S. for the problems in Muslim countries but gave me an understanding of why radical muslim groups do and why they have become influential and dangerous.

    • November 2, 2009 5:49 pm

      They already HAVE a foothold; now they want the whole country, piece by piece through organizations like CAIR and many others!!!

  2. November 2, 2009 2:53 am

    Mr. Gadiel is correct. It WAS Muslim terrorists that murdered his son and thousands of other Americans and continue to do so today. They are killing people all over our planet, yet we are held guilty by our own government for talking about it. Since when is it “extreme” to speak out against extremeists? Maybe if we are more vocal here at home about the problem, not only will the government be forced to take more deffinative action, but the peaceful muslims will take action also and start turning the radicals in.

    In God We Trust

    Rev. Firen
    Team Infidel

  3. Donald Steinberg permalink
    November 2, 2009 3:05 am

    The Mulsoms can class all other people as infedels but Americans and Europeons can’t even print a humorous cartoon of Mohammad. Yale University should be ashamed to prevent publictions with Mohammad cartoons. Aren’t all people affended by being called infedels?

  4. valhalla permalink
    November 2, 2009 3:06 am

    Actually the father’s proposed wording is wrong. His son was not murdered (illegal killed) but rather either “Collateral Damage” in Islamic Freedom Fighters’ defensive actions against Imperial Amerika OR an enemy of Islam who, according to OBL and one interpretation of the Koran, can be justifiably killed by Mujahedin (Holy Warriors of Islam).

    Therefore the Town Council acted appropriately in not using Inflammatory words (murder, terrorists) to record his death.

    People should recognize that only Infidels murder people and one person’s terrorist is another’s Freedom Fighter.

    It’s all a matter of Perspective, and the West’s perspective is simply wrong. Just ask many university administrators, liberal professors, and Liberals/Progressives. They will tell yoy that they teach or speak Truth, not Falsehood.

    • November 2, 2009 3:07 am

      If that is an attempt at sarcasm it gets a D minus.

      • Valhalla permalink
        November 3, 2009 3:51 pm

        If you cannot recognize Satire that is your problem.

    • Rainer Unsinn permalink
      November 2, 2009 3:51 am

      “illegal killed”

      According to the statute of the district, in which he died, Gadiel was illegally killed with malice aforethought. Therefore he was murdered.

      There is no-one doubting that the murderers were muslim.

      The aim of terrorists is to create terror. The perpetrators achieved their goal.

      So, there can be no denying that Gadiel was murdered by muslim terrorists.

      As for your defence of the city council, it beggars belief and is offensive to all but the supporters of muslim terrorism.

      Incidentally, you state that the terrorist’s actions were “defensive actions against Imperial Amerika”. Taking lives on enemy soil is NOT a defensive action – it is an offensive action. Therefore, your puerile arguments fails.

      “according to OBL and one interpretation of the Koran”
      Well, that’s just the problem isn’t it? The Koran is so open to intepretation, you might think that Mohammed condones having sex with 9 year-olds (like the one he married) or committing genocide to remove all Jews from the world.

      • ursulamargrit permalink
        November 2, 2009 7:57 am

        Actually, many thousands of people are doubting that the murderers were Muslims! I am NOT saying there aren’t plenty of Muslim extremists/terrorists around. But they did not commit the acts of 9/11 2001.

        ALL the evidence (if you care to look at it) points towards the US government themselves bringing down the towers, in effect sacrificing 3000 of their own people, in order to have a ‘legitimate’ reason to start the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Those towers (including WT7, which was not even hit) came down by controlled demolition.

        And if you think that is unthinkable, do some research on Pearl Harbor. The same thing happened there. The President and his henchmen were calmly sitting and waiting for word that the attack had happened (as they knew it would, because they had had that information beforehand), so they could declare war on Hitler and the Japanese.

        The American people didn’t want to get involved in the war. They would only allow it if they were attacked. Therefore, that had to be arranged. Sacrificing 3000 people to attain that goal meant NOTHING to those in power.

        • wthiglic permalink
          November 2, 2009 9:03 am

          I think ursulamargrit has been smoking too much dope. The carcinogens have clogged and gotten into the fat of the brain, and not allowed the synaptic flow of thought in the brain.

        • Julie permalink
          November 2, 2009 10:02 am

          Don’t forget your tin hat on your way out the door to spread your lunacy.

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          November 2, 2009 11:53 am

          ursulamargrit
          Out of 300 million people we are bound to have a few nuts or people that have destroyed there minds by abusing drugs. I had a man in custody one time that thought that Bill Clinton and the Comunist leadership could locate him through the car radio. I would advise you to keep your radio turned off. by the way Hitler declared war on us. Dear Lord where do they come from. Koo Koo Koo. Be sure and let us know who shot Cock Robin as well. hehehe

        • Alan permalink
          November 2, 2009 4:40 pm

          You’re a fascist idiot if you believe that conspiracy crapola.

          Go and make excuses for YOUR Muslim friends.

          One of them just murdered his own daughter in Phoenix. I suppose you, Ursula would blame Christians, not some “honor killing” by a jerk who should never have been allowed in this country I hope Sheriff Joe fries his ass.

          It’s time for Muslims to shed the burkas, the hajibis, and declare their loyalty to America and their open denunciation of Islamic Murder, including Hamas and Fatah…If they demur or refuse, kick ’em out.

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            November 3, 2009 4:26 am

            In this state it is against the law to wear a ski mask into a store or anything that covers the face enough to preclud identity. It has been that way since at least 5 years before 9/11.

        • November 2, 2009 6:43 pm

          ursulamargrit, your words prove you are a FOOL!!!

        • papydawg permalink
          November 3, 2009 1:31 pm

          re: “And if you think that is unthinkable, do some research on Pearl
          Harbor. The same thing happened there. The President and his henchmen
          were calmly sitting and waiting for word that the attack had happened
          (as they knew it would, because they had had that information
          beforehand), so they could declare war on Hitler and the Japanese.”

          I consulted with a historian very familiar with this topic. His comment: ‘that’s bunk. pure conspiracy-paranoia goaded by secondhand/circumstantial evidence, some of it (willfully? in any case completely) misread.’

          pd

    • Terry permalink
      November 2, 2009 4:06 am

      Jesus died for Jews, Gentiles, Muslims, and even you my son.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 2, 2009 6:49 am

      Valhalla
      Please tell me your post was sarcastic or a very bad joke? What ever it was very poor. The gentleman is correct and I hope he sticks to his guns if not I hope a monument can be made and placed on private property and the board members be damned. I know what I would like to do with a board a wooden one.

      • Valhalla permalink
        November 3, 2009 3:58 pm

        IT was Satire meant to show how false the argument is. Satire is a good method to show the falsity of an argument. Problem is that often people do not recognize Satire when they see it.

  5. November 2, 2009 3:06 am

    Good article, but I’d like to point out that by describing Napolitano’s antics as “offensive” you play into the hands of the P.C. left who want veto power over what other people say.

    Whether something is offensive or not is subjective and has no place in fact based discussions.

    Time and time again I see otherwise reasonable people fretting over whether this or that is “offensive,” never realizing that those who play the “I’m so offended!” card do so to obscure the truth.

    I know that isn’t what you’re trying to do here, but by even bringing the question of offense into your article, you reinforce the notion that ideas should not be expressed if someone can invent a reason to feign emotional upset over them.

  6. Rick permalink
    November 2, 2009 3:41 am

    The PC crowd always sides with the oppressor – they don’t want to offend them – they wish to place themselves at the back of the beheading line! Actually their denial of this murderous act by the 9/11 zombies of allah is complicity.

  7. Colette permalink
    November 2, 2009 4:37 am

    Sick em’ Gretchen!
    We must never forget!

  8. donnamarie permalink
    November 2, 2009 5:17 am

    I worked with a Muslim lady from Jordan. Her take on 9/11 was it was bad but “oh well”. The father does have a point. Also, the muslim community needs to know that they need to do more to stop their own from committing acts like this instead of being quietly complicit in their actions.

  9. j c original permalink
    November 2, 2009 5:23 am

    Facts are facts, Epstein is saying, I’d rather offend millions than offend one muslim family. There is no law in this country that’s states a citizen can not be offended period. We have the freedom of stating facts.

  10. Alan permalink
    November 2, 2009 6:00 am

    That town should experience a 9/11 or live under Sharia rule. I’d like to see their hedonistic, Lib women wearing hajibis and burkas instead of minis…then let’s see how long they’d stick up for Muslims.

    Ct. a state, like Massachusetts that was supposedly one of the original 13 colonies. Now the little Bonzo lovers (bet they voted for him unaminously) prefer Sharia over the Constitution. Well, let ’em have it.

    • John Davidson permalink
      November 2, 2009 2:09 pm

      They may well be living under their rule, sir.

  11. Alan permalink
    November 2, 2009 6:07 am

    Ruth Epstein…nice name.

    Too bad she didn’t spend three years in Sderot, enjoying all of those nice, humanitarian gestures from the folks across the Gaza frontier, you know, all those oh-so-innocent Katushas.

    Or that her son – that is if she isn’t a Lez – wasn’t named Shalit. Or better yet, Goldwasser and Regev.

    Another poster child for Jewish Lib stupidity. And also – probably another voter for that anti-semitic bonzo.

  12. Alan permalink
    November 2, 2009 6:08 am

    Oh gosh, I forgot to put in “nice humanitarian gestures from the MUSLIM folks”…

  13. Tuesday permalink
    November 2, 2009 7:11 am

    Stick to your guns, Mr. Gadiel. Ruth Epstein is wrong! There is no reason a warm, loving town has to bend over backwards and not acknowledge what bad elements in the Muslim world did (and do!).

    Your son, James Gadiel, was indeed Murdered by Muslim terrorists.

    To other posters here: Why not contact Ms. Epstein and the rest of the board?

    • donnamarie permalink
      November 2, 2009 7:30 am

      To Tuesday,

      Good idea, I will do just that.

  14. Theodore Blunt permalink
    November 2, 2009 8:03 am

    Anyone ever ask an Arab the definition of a “moderate” Muslim? I did and received the answer, “there is no such thing.” How many times do the “slow learners” have to have the experience of death and mayhem before they understand that under the Muslim code you must subjigate, or be killed.

    • Julie permalink
      November 2, 2009 10:04 am

      That’s a good questions for the liberals.

  15. Jack Peek permalink
    November 2, 2009 8:07 am

    Author: Theodore Blunt
    Comment:
    Anyone ever ask an Arab the definition of a “moderate” Muslim? I did and received the answer, “there is no such thing.” How many times do the “slow learners” have to have the experience of death and mayhem before they understand that under the Muslim code you must subjigate, or be killed.

    Mr Blunt: See my comment…pretty much what a Moderate Muslim did tell me also, at least 10 percent for sure.

  16. Joseph White permalink
    November 2, 2009 8:21 am

    “The city doesn’t want to offend Muslims.”

    Why do Muslim’s get a free pass, when everyone else gets called a racist, and a political terrorist, just for speaking the truth?

    It could be that the “Peace” love Muslims have scared the spine out of the liberals, so they bow down and worship at the Kabba, in order to save their own lives.

    To every liberal that panders to barbarians, I call you cowards and think that maybe you’ve forgotten that the first amendment gives us the right of free speech and press. That means that we are free to call a Muslim a coward and Mohammed a two bit camel jockey with delusions of granduer, a child molester and walk off.

    This is America, get over it, and grow up. If you don’t like it, you can buy a one way plane ticket back to sandland.

    Remember, our boys and girls are fighting for our liberties, so we have the right to free speech, and guess what? There is no amendment that says, “You have the right not to be offended.”

  17. Theodore Blunt permalink
    November 2, 2009 9:17 am

    In reply to Jack Peek’s ” They cannot gain a foothold here.” They already have a foothold here. In our larger cities they decide who serves in public office. Ive watched “negoations” for years. They never concede a point. Never. I, for one can never understand why our representatives, at all levels of government permit their continued entry into the Unikted States. We are only importing problems.

  18. Jack Peek permalink
    November 2, 2009 9:25 am

    In reply to Jack Peek’s ” They cannot gain a foothold here.” They already have a foothold here. In our larger cities they decide who serves in public office. Ive watched “negoations” for years. They never concede a point. Never. I, for one can never understand why our representatives, at all levels of government permit their continued entry into the Unikted States.

    100 Percent in agreement, it’s mirrors LA RAZA,an the LATINO invasion.

    They say in the Doctrine of La Raza, “when we are the majority (in Calif) WE WILL CONTROL THE SCHOOLS, THE BARRIOS..THE GOVERMENT..and damn they have.

    We will be attacked again..and it will be traced to the southern border.

  19. Freeme permalink
    November 2, 2009 9:29 am

    Mr. Gadiel has a RIGHT to FREEDOM OF SPEECH as this is STILL the United States of America! There is a simple solution here…
    Kent should get over it’s ‘political correctness’ crap and let him Memorialize his son how he wants. If at a later date the ‘truthers’ are right, so then he can change the Memorial ‘wording’, but it will not erase the fact he LOST HIS SON in a attack on our whole country that affects ALL of us Citizens.

  20. Jimi permalink
    November 2, 2009 9:36 am

    Just change the inscription to “It was Bush’s fault”.

    Everyone in Con-neticut would be fine with that.

    • victor permalink
      November 2, 2009 10:18 am

      France already has 25% Muslim population and growing. G.Britain argues about allowing Sharia law in England. Dearborn, Mich. is a hotbed of terrorism right here in the U.S> Not all Muslims are evil, but a high percentage of them want Sharia law in our country. This father should not back down, and those politically correct libs will soon regret the day that they bent over backwards for the sake of not offending the main terrorists of the World, the Muslims.

  21. Barbara permalink
    November 2, 2009 10:23 am

    The father is not allowed to state Muslims terrorists killed over three thousand people Sept. 11 because they might be offended! Get real – somebody did and it was not the Easter bunny!

    Since this all about not offending—- well I am offended that I an not supposed to say Merry Christmas. My community is not allowed to put up a nativity scene. The city parks are not allowed to have a monument of the ten commandments. The store clerks are not allowed to say Merry Christmas in return.

    I DO NOT LIKE HAPPY HOLIDAYS double bah humbug! ! ! ! ! !
    IT IS MERRY CHRISTMAS

    • Colette permalink
      November 2, 2009 10:48 am

      mmm, mmm, mmm……your words ring louder than the bells of liberty-
      at least in this town they do….
      Oh wait, I think it’s happening in everytown, USA.
      Come to AmerrrrEEEEka and destroy the infidels. They’re easy targets because
      in their quest to become wise, they have become stupid-
      WAKE-UP America-They’re coming to a town near you….watch out what you wish for, you just might get it!

  22. June permalink
    November 2, 2009 11:32 am

    This nation is in more peril than it has ever been. Our government keeps importing people who only want to harm us or take over or both. We have an invasion coming across our southern border. We had Muslims who are either brought in on “humanitarian” visas or come legally to infiltrate. Either faction, no matter how long they are here, will try to enforce their language, customs and traditions on us as well as demanding that our laws be changed to suit them. I read the story of a medical clinic in Dallas who asked that a woman applying for a job, not to wear her headdress. Instead, she is asking for an apology and a change of policy. Can you beat that for nerve? They come here, reap the benefits of this country, then demand that laws and policies be changed to accomodate them. The immigrants of old wanted nothing more than to be Americans. Today’s newcomers only want the benefits and not the responsibilities. I’m for a moratorium on all immigration until we straighten out this mess we have now. Then, very limited and only to those who can prove they are not a threat and who wait in line until their turn.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 2, 2009 12:39 pm

      June
      Count me in with you.

    • Colette permalink
      November 2, 2009 1:22 pm

      I agree-….Importation of illegal alliens, free ride=equals more votes for the “slum-lord” living in our white house ………So self-serving…….he’s willing to sacrifice our freedoms for his own pipe-dreams, and those who have molded and shaped him to be their “golden-boy”…..go kiss the _____ of your King…..The one and only King of the Universe is Jesus Christ, and there is nothing you can do about it Prez.BrownNose

  23. November 2, 2009 1:12 pm

    The wording this grieving father wants certainly drips with his pain and anger. The bigger question here is, “What is the purpose of this monument?”

    The father has a “right” only to place on his son’s grave that which he deems suitable. As for the town wanting to erect a monument in his son’s honor, there must be an agreement between the family and the town.

    The brevity and blunt statement seems more of a sharp angry jab at those who murdered his son, rather than honoring the boy’s life.

    Although both the town and the father want this monument, I think there is an impasse because they have different agendas.

    It seems the father may want the monument, not only to remember his son, but also to get a modicum of justice–which is understandable.

    In the long run, it seems a compromise could be made my simply stating how and when he died, and that city mourns the loss of their native son, along with the nation.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 2, 2009 2:08 pm

      I could not disagree more. He simply wants the truth which it seems some people are intent on hiding because of more political correctness and bowing to muslims. The purpose is to honor his son and it should state how he died. I would settle for nothing less. I will contribute for a real monument.

      • John Davidson permalink
        November 2, 2009 2:26 pm

        Jack, I only feel she has a point because I favor blondes and that sandy look may well be revealing, if you know what I mean.

        Any religion that preaches the extinction of the rights of others is doomed to failure by its own doctorine having spawned itself by keeping its followers ignorant and subservant to prophecies which may well be myths. But by using religious beliefs is not a new theme used by demented clerics to gain world dominence. It just that in this point in history, dealing with it is quite difficult because everyone wants to be glorious.

    • November 2, 2009 10:49 pm

      Nice try Rhonda. You have the makings of a good PC cop. For the plaque, you mention the “how” and “when” he died but not the “why”. What is it about the plain facts that is so disturbing to you?

    • GJ Tryon permalink
      November 4, 2009 11:39 pm

      “Drips?” I’d caution against using “drips” when defending Muslims. The inadvertent evocation of dripping swords, dripping heads just severed, dripping walls after suicide bombings, dripping circumcisions of young girls, dripping self-inflicted gashes of jihad devotees, dripping jet fuel down office towers, dripping oil wells that finance the bloodbaths, dripping saliva from the rabid lips of imams worldwide, dripping urine down the pant legs of the spineless media, and last but not least, the still dripping tears of 9-11 victims’ families, must inevitably tell against your well-meaning but naive efforts toward “compromise.”

  24. Colette permalink
    November 2, 2009 1:36 pm

    Seeing as how we have a president that isn’t leading, but rather organizing our country, the world, and your life, I’ve gone to the best person I know for advice…

    Yoda says….“Lost the knowledge on how to stand, we have…mmmhhmmm”

    What do I think ?
    What concerns me is that we are not making a disturbance anymore. We are so worried about fitting in. We are so worried about relating. We are so worried about being cool that we have forgotten what it is to make a stand for what is true……

    Reality Check-
    Twenty years ago this fall, the Iron Curtain was coming down in Europe. Why is this anniversary going all but unobserved: Why aren’t we making more of the biggest mass liberation in history?

    I don’t know who said this, but I agree with this quote when asked why, …..
    ……………..” because to celebrate it would involve recognizing it as a victory over Communism. And, after the Left’s long march through the institutions of the West, most are not willing to do that. There’s the bad totalitarianism (Nazism) and the good totalitarianism (Communism), whose apologists and, indeed, fetishists can still be found everywhere, even in our white house.”

    911 is being swept under the rug by this administration. Isn’t that why HE renamed it “day of service” or some B.S. along those lines?

  25. PRCS permalink
    November 2, 2009 2:36 pm

    O’Reilly, Carlson, and Hoover: the three stooges.

    Thanks to Bush 43, and a gaggle of know-nothing politicians, journalists, and that diverse group of ignorant pundits (from Hannity and Beck to Maddow) whose unwitting partnership with CAIR and other deceitful fundamentalists, the American public remains grossly misinformed about Islam’s true nature, teachings, and intent.

    Hoover is an idiot. Her chatty speculation that Kent’s one Muslim family is probably not ‘radicalized’, and the moronic compound adjective ‘radical extremists’, belies her ignorance.

    Here’s a description of a ‘moderate’ Muslim even she might understand:

    Moderate Muslims are like Catholics who use artificial birth control methods. Neither is in full compliance with the tenets of their respective beliefs.

    And a moderate Muslim’s selective compliance with Islamic teachings does NOT change what Qur’an and Sunnah state.

    Somali Muslims have begun amputating thieves’ hands, because Qur’an 5:38 tells them to.

    Are they perverting Islam, or are they devout literalists? BillO thinks such actions are a perversion.

    And dear Gretchen. Eight years now post 9/11 and her oh, so sincere desire is to see that placard put up to honor that 23 year old ‘child’.

    Amazing.

    • November 2, 2009 10:13 pm

      So soak your head, PRCS!!!!

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 3, 2009 4:49 am

      I have to agree in regard to Hoover. There is nothing conservative about her. I believe she is there simply because she is a pretty face.

  26. November 2, 2009 2:46 pm

    MASH message for Peter Gadiel:

    Dear Mr. Gadiel,

    You said: “Muslims have to acknowledge that it was their co-religionists who committed this act in their name.” We couldn’t agree with you more. Please know that there are Muslims who are disgusted with Kent officials’ cowardice. Without acknowledging what happened on 9/11, there is no way forward. Germany acknowledged the Holocaust and other atrocities perpetrated by the Nazis in WWII and Germans became a better people for it. We would like to add our voices to your demand that “Murdered by Muslim terrorists” be added on your son’s memorial plaque.

    Respectfully,

    Muslims Against Sharia

    http://muslimsagainstsharia.blogspot.com/2009/10/father-of-911-victim-fights-to-have.html

  27. Jack Peek permalink
    November 2, 2009 7:44 pm

    Thanks to Bush 43,We were not attacked in 8 yrs……that is over!

    Thanks to Bush 43, MANY,and not enough Radical Muslims got the answer to their prayer rug vocalism.

    72 Virgins, if they could round up all the pieces after a good 2000 lb bomb was placed on the nose.

    It is a fight for our lifes..period, get used to it, cause this time, 911 will pale the first one the way “BHO” is going now.

    • PRCS permalink
      November 2, 2009 11:03 pm

      You obviously didn’t understand the post.

      George Bush–September 17, 2001:

      “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace.”

      Beginning only days after 9/11 Bush 43 and a great many other ignorant clowns repeated the ‘Islam is a religon of peace’ mantra–usually right after each new atrocity carried out by Muslims–fully intended to make the American public believe the perpetrators are acting out–or are adherents of–‘radical Islam’.

      And eight years post 9/11, you still believe that.

      “…not enough Radical Muslims…”, you noted.

      That we have not been similarly attacked again–in the past eight years–is in spite of his ridiculous personal belief that ‘Islam is peace’.

      It’s not. Every Muslim on the planet is a member of the same ideology and he should have made that clear.

      Jihadists are literalists whose individual and group intention is to subjugate the entire world under the hegemony of Islamic law; as the Qur’an and Sunnah are written. Not ‘radical Islam’.

      Islam.

      • November 2, 2009 11:51 pm

        Islam is nonsense; no, actually, it is insanity!! The Koran is nonsense!

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 3, 2009 4:57 am

        PRCS
        I agree that Bush kept us free from attack here at home and I also agree with how he did it. I do not however agree that Islam is a religion of peace it simply is not. I believe it is still locked in the 7th century and barbaric.

        • PRCS permalink
          November 3, 2009 10:47 am

          That B43 kept us safe–which he did–is not the issue.

          Now, eight years since 9/11, people like Hoover and O’Reilly continue to parrot the bogus notions of a ‘radical’ Islam and the ‘perversion’ of Islam by jihadists.

          Muslims believe the Qur’an to be God’s literal, infallible, and unchangeable word. And Islam expects every Muslim to be a literalist (though, thankfully, most are not).

          Hoover and O’Reilly (and Bush)–driven by their ignorance of Islam’s true teachings, have erroneously concluded that Muslims who amputate thieves’ hands, for example, are practicing–or are adherents of–a non existent ‘radical Islam’.

          That they are wrong has not stopped them from misinforming the American public.

          When the American public finally realizes that it is Islam (not ‘radical’ Islam) that drives jihadists to do what they do (and keeps ‘moderate’ Muslims from calling them out) they will realize how ignorant O’reilly, and Hoover, and our political leaders have been.

          The problem isn’t ‘radical’ Islam. It’s Islam.

          • Valhalla permalink
            November 3, 2009 3:48 pm

            Question: Is the Bible God’s literal, infallible, and unchangeable word?

            • Joseph White permalink
              November 4, 2009 6:35 am

              Question: Is the Bible God’s literal, infallible, and unchangeable word?

              I can answer this in one short word. No. The Bible isn’t God’s literal infallible and unchangeable word. This is mainly because the current Bible isn’t the original Book of God. The original Book of God is the Torah, and the original Torah was burned by the Persians when Nebuchadnezzar took the Hebrew people slave during his reign.

              The Current Bible is translated from Greek, and as translations are honed and get better and better, new translations come out. Not to mention that every Christian Denomination has it’s own take on the Bible.

              In addition to being translated from Greek and Hebrew, the Current Bible is a hodgepodge of books that was voted on in the council of Nicea in 325 AD, and overseen by Emperor Constantine in an effort to get the different Christian Sects to get along. Many books were excised, and three books were added. That’s why the Bible the Baptists read is different from the Bible that Catholics read and Pentacostals read, which is different from the Bible Mormon’s read.

              However, that shouldn’t take away from the basic message, which is “Love your neighbor as you do yourself,” and “Do unto others as you’d have them do unto you.”

              If you needed any proof that it’s not the literal word of God, then it can be found in Genesis 1 and 2, which are two different accounts of the Creation Story, both of which are at odds with each other. In addition to that, most of the lessons in the Bible are Parables, which are stories that were meant to teach a lesson.

              Our Contributer, Swemson would say that these things are self-evident and even an Atheist believes in them.

    • November 2, 2009 11:43 pm

      Rock on, Jack, ROCK on!!!

  28. Jack Peek permalink
    November 2, 2009 11:05 pm

    IT IS PEACE…for a so small few, the rest..WELL.

  29. Chip permalink
    November 2, 2009 11:14 pm

    Uh… I think it was Muslims that did this. Call a spade a spade.

  30. Colette permalink
    November 3, 2009 1:10 am

    This is easier to explain than CNN may think, or want to believe. First, the fundamental goal of jihad is the imposition of Islamic law.

    Various jihadist conflicts around the world are but local expressions of a global goal:

    Think jihad globally, wage jihad locally, one might say. And al-Shabaab’s rhetoric does not match al-Qaeda’s because al-Qaeda invented it. No, they and the other jihadist movements have a common source of incitement in the Quran and ahadith.

    Tell these women that their religion is one of PEACE-! Wake Up America-

    “Somali group with al Qaeda ties threatens Israel,” by Mohamed Amiin Adow for CNN, November 1:

    Somali women flogged for not wearing socks
    Sharia Alert: A system such as Sharia, with insufficient (or mostly absent) limitations on power, lends itself to even more imaginative abuses than are explicitly stated in the letter of the law. “Somali women beaten for violating Islamic law, officials say,” by Mohammed Amiin Adow for CNN, October 29:

    (CNN) — Militants who control parts of Somalia’s capital city are beating women in broad daylight for violating their radical brand of Islamic law, according to local officials and witnesses in Mogadishu.
    “Just today, Al-Shabaab dispatched men with whips to the streets around Bakara market and they are flogging any woman who is found not wearing socks,” according to a female maize trader at the Mogadishu market, who spoke Thursday.
    She did not want to be named for security reasons.
    In the past two days, more than 130 people, including women who were not wearing headscarves and men chewing dried khat leaves, have been detained for violating Al-Shabaab’s interpretation of sharia, or Islamic law, according to witnesses and officials.
    Hooded Al-Shabaab gunmen rounded up 50 women on Wednesday from Mogadishu’s Bakara market for not wearing the veil that is required for women under some interpretations of Islamic law, according to the maize trader.
    “Most of these women were vegetable traders, so they are poor and can’t afford to buy veils for 600,000 shillings [about $23 U.S.],” she said.
    She said she saw more women being detained Thursday.
    Another 80 Somali civilians were detained in the southwestern town of Luuq, near the Kenyan and Ethiopian border, “because they turned deaf ear to orders we imposed on the town,” said the local Al-Shabaab commander Sheikh Hussien al-Iraqi.
    Al-Shabaab is considered a terrorist organization by the United States because of its ties to Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network.
    It has been imposing stricter rules on Somali civilians living in the areas it controls.
    Earlier this month, Al-Shabaab militants whipped women for wearing bras in an area of northern Mogadishu that they control, shocking residents who have been besieged by the ongoing insurgency. The militants believe the female undergarments are a deception to men.

  31. joe white permalink
    November 3, 2009 6:33 pm

    Question: Is the Bible God’s literal, infallible, and unchangeable word? By Valhalla

    Short and easy answer. No. Why not? Beacause the bible you read depends upon your denomination, and no two translations agree all the time. The bible has been retranslated so many times, that it’s not exactley the same book my father grew up reading.

    Besides, the council of nicea in the 13th (?) Century took a much bigger book and excised parts of it and added parts, to try to get it to mesh across all the christian denominations of the time.

    It doesn’t change the basic message though: that we should love our neighbor as we do ourselves, and that we should do unto others what we’d have them do to us.

  32. Bobby permalink
    November 3, 2009 7:57 pm

    Peter, I’m sorry for your loss. I never had a son, but I can somewhat imagine the pain you must feel. I pray the Lord eases your burden with the passing of time. I also want to thank you for your total support of America’s immigration laws’, the importance of which, seem to go right over the heads of many Americans.

  33. Bobby permalink
    November 3, 2009 8:03 pm

    As so many posters have observed, the political correctness infesting this nation, and mainly driven by leftist Democrats, is killing us as a nation. Isn’t it interesting that several administrations in D.C. have told us and pounded into us the dangers of terrorism, yet they act as if we are fighting Ireland. Something is terribly wrong here, and this is the central theme that I believe bothers so many people. If Islam is a religion of peace, what in the hell are we doing in Islamic countries? Again, what is the true agenda of our being in the mideast?

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 4, 2009 3:20 am

      Bobby
      The fact is it is not a religion of peace and they to a great degree reuse to be brought into the 21st century they are fighting every step of the way. Quite a few years ago I had to interview a convict at the Lewisburg Federal Pen in Pa. It was controled mostly by the black muslims and they did not believe in peace at anytime. My visit was a vain attempt to locate someone else and I knew I was wasting my time but had to dot that I, They eventually broke that enclave of home growns up and I reccomend moving all these prisoners and not allowing them to be indoctrinated just moving them to different5 locations helps and not allowing a large concentration of muslim control.

  34. Jack Hampton permalink
    November 4, 2009 3:22 am

    Should have read, refuse to be brought

  35. November 5, 2009 3:40 pm

    These ‘town leaders’ need to get a grip. Was it Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutherans….who blew up the towers?

    NO people IT WAS MUSLIMS and if they have some in their town who might be offended, tell them to ‘kill their own snakes’ before THEY kill more Americans.

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