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Enemy of the State—Michelle Bachmann? Meltdown With Keith Olbermann Part 15

November 6, 2009

On the night of the Fort Hood massacre, Keith Olbermann was worked up.  Emotional, vein trobbing, voice trembling in fury worked up.  The object of his wrath?  Major Hasan who walked through an Army base gunning down unarmed Americans?

No, it takes Congresswoman Michelle Bachman to get him that agitated.

Here’s how Keith began his first segment as every other network was covering the events at Fort Hood:

OLBERMANN: An elected Republican official today is leading a protest on the west steps of the Capitol that compared health care reform to Nazi death camps and encouraged mindless harassment of and possibly violence against the government.  Not tea baggers anymore, not demagogic commentators, an actual congresswoman inciting a hateful rebellion against the rule of law and order.  Her name is Michele Bachmann.

Rebellion?  Really Keith?  Encouragement to call one’s Representative?  That’s right Thomas Jefferson said every now and again the tree of liberty must be watered with the tears of overworked Congressional phone staff.

Well, a sign some yahoo who knew he could get on MSNBC if he carried it made the odious Dachau comparison, anyway.  We don’t know if he was another LaRouchie, or even someone there to make everyone else look bad.  Of course, no quote from any Republican Congressperson (while some were pretty lame) made any such assertion, but hey, there was sign!

Mindless harassment?  Go visit your Member of Congress and register your protest. Why that’s pretty close to anarchy!  Call out the well-regulated militia!

OLBERMANN: Our fifth story on the COUNTDOWN: As if that were not bad enough, Ms.  Bachmann today joined by the House minority leader as well as countless other GOP representatives.  This orgy of veiled threat and not so veiled racism of white power minority rule now fully the province of the Republican Party.  Welcome to the coup!

What’s next, a call for a reinstatement of the Alien and Sedition Acts?

If the racism wasn’t so thinly veiled, then you should have some proof of it, right Keith?  Keith?  We’re waiting…

OLBERMANN: Congressman Bachmann staging what she tried to claim was a spontaneous meet-up of opponents to health care reform, in 25 buses paid for by the AstroTurf group Americans for Prosperity, could be considered spontaneous.  An estimated 4,000 people today answering Ms. Bachmann‘s call, bringing with them on those buses, not just their misunderstanding of health care reform but also their hatred of President Obama, as well as pure hatred, period.

Again, just assume the hatred because Keith says so… and says so… and says so.  And wouldn’t you love to see those busses?  Even if, fat chance, Keith wasn’t under-estimating the crowd, that’s 160 people per bus.  Even Republicans don’t drive vehicles that big.  Think of the carbon footprint!

OLBERMANN:  Lee Fang of taking these photographs of a sign that reads “National Socialist Health Care, Dachau, Germany, 1945,” superimposed over the horrific images of the corpses from Dachau.  Other signs are slightly less shameful but many in no way related to health care.

Of course, we won’t show you those signs, just trust us.  All the signs we’re not showing you, and all the comments we’re not playing for you?  Those were the racist ones.  We promise.  Just because there aren’t any racist signs in the pictures at doesn’t mean there weren’t any.  The rally was huge—no wait, it was tiny, and it was racist, remember that’s what really matters.

There was ONE offensive sign at a "hate" rally?

Then Keith played some less than scintillating clips of Bachmann and other Republican Reps shouting into the mic.  Of course, John Boehner had to step all over the event…

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) BOEHNER:  I‘m going to stand with you and all freedom-loving Americans against this bill.  This is my copy of the Constitution.  And I‘m going to stand here with our Founding Fathers, who wrote in the preamble, “We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”  (END VIDEO CLIP)

OLBERMANN:  If Minority Leader Boehner had read his prop copy of the Constitution, perhaps he‘d know that he was actually quoting the Declaration of Independence—or maybe he thinks that‘s the same thing as the Constitution.

When are the Republicans going to promote some of their articulate members into leadership?

Later, with guest Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post, Olbermann exposed just how low a standard the Pulitzer Committee has now adopted.  Lower than the Nobel Committee, in fact.

OLBERMANN:  Today, we saw a member of Congress encouraging harassment of the government, fomenting—her word was revolution.  And her behavior was sanctioned by her colleagues, the Republican leadership of the House of Representatives.  And I recall that during the previous administration, if you disagreed with policy and just said it, let alone staged some sort of protest with banners and references to the Second World War, you immediately got branded a traitor.  There seems to have been some kind of a shift of terminology in these times.

ROBINSON:  Right.  Your recollection is correct.  I think it was more of a shift of party and control of the White House, and both houses of Congress.  And I think that the outrage that was displayed at criticism of the president of the time of war a few years ago was situational.  And it seems to no longer apply when a certain party is no longer in charge.

OLBERMANN:  Yes.  Did the wars end?  Did I miss that?  Did I not get the memo?

ROBINSON:  You know, I missed the memo if they did.  The wars—the wars did not end.  And it really was quite a spectacle.

You know, every time you guys repeat this myth it gets just a little bigger.  Soon we’ll be hearing that Dick Cheney waterboarded the Dixie Chicks—not that there’s anything wrong with that.

This is why Keith Olbermann only has guests who agree with him.  Not mostly agree with him, but who will buy anything and everything he says—and that’s about 10 people, the same guests over and over again.  Congressmen Anthony Weiner and James Climer, Senator Jay Rockefeller, Howard Fineman of Newsweek, Chris Hayes of the Nation, Eugene Robinson, Clarence Page, Lawrence O’Donnell, Democratic “strategist” Chris Kofinis, and Richard Wolffe.  I challenge you to find a Countdown that doesn’t include at least two of these.

Because you can only make such stupid arguments in a bubble of approval.  Even a reasonably informed Junior High student would point out that no one was called a traitor for disagreeing with Bush domestic policy.  People were questioned for voting to cut off funding for the war, for trying to obstruct terrorist surveillance, for making intelligence operations public.  Not for opposing Social Security Reform.

Then Keith made his most ludicrous suggestion of the week:

OLBERMANN:  But it‘s always been appalling and it‘s always been Michele Bachmann, and I don‘t think she has any idea of what she‘s doing truly and its possible impact.

But today was when the Republicans say, “We own this.”  There is racism in here.  There is bigotry.  There‘s refusal to acknowledge the outcome of an election that was a pretty clear-cut decision…an associated point with this, how did the organizers of this not realize, you know what?  We had better get somehow, even if we‘ll have to pay them to show up, some black faces, some brown faces, some Asian people, or somebody in this crowd, other than the crowd that we‘ve seen at every piece of videotape that looked like—that looked exactly the same.  This is otherwise going to look like a pro-apartheid rally in South Africa 35 or 40 years ago.

ROBINSON:  Well, now, this is going to sound tendentious, Keith.

OLBERMANN:  All right.

ROBINSON:  But I went to the Republican National Convention last year, and you did not see many minorities there.  And it—look, this is a—this is a party that has been more and more hostile to minorities, to Latinos, to African-Americans.  It certainly perceived that way and this didn‘t help that image at all.  That—you know, that seems to be the hand they‘ve decided to play.

OLBERMANN:  It‘s terrifying.

Be afraid, be very afraid—of the early onset of Alzheimers.  Really, rent-a-black?  And you are looking for signs of racism in the CROWD?  Check the mirror.

  1. Michael van der Galien permalink
    November 7, 2009 1:16 am

    The thing is, they really don’t care about the truth. It’s all part of a strategy to alienate the GOP, and conservatives in general. The idea behind it is that you shouldn’t exchange arguments if you can also just push your opponent to the fringe by discrediting him. And that’s what Olbermann and his merry friends are doing.

    • Sarah permalink
      November 8, 2009 12:48 pm

      Michael – Why has the party of personal responsibility started looking everywhere but itself for its own losses and shortcomings? I think our only way back is to stop focusing on “them” and start coming up with ideas that respond to the issues really plaguing Americans. Remember back in the 80s and 90s how it was the “doom and gloom Democrats”? I swear, we’ve become the one’s motivated not by promise but by fear and gloom. I know we say that they are the Nazis, etc. But Nazism needed more than a great speaker to get a foothold. The number one motivators were fear and resentment towards the perceived powers-that-be.

      I mean, have you ever really listened to Michele Bachman? Her entire political career has been built on phantoms of fear. Where are the Reagan-esque Republicans of old, who call this phony Obama hope-fest’s bluff and one up them without the need for fear, fear, fear?! You and I both know that people naturally respond to “fear” and “negativity” more than anything. That’s why pre-packaged news (cable or otherwise) is through the roof, and tabloids still fly off the shelves. But we built our greatness not by espousing fear – even though there’s always plenty of reason to be afraid, if we look through our lense that way – but by looking BEYOND, over and above.

      Yeah – I say we start fresh. I wouldn’t let my own children whine the way we as a party have been. Long live Ronald Reagan’s spirit!

  2. Janet permalink
    November 7, 2009 6:04 am

    Be happy his audience is sooooo small.

    • Howard K Mooney permalink
      November 8, 2009 9:15 am

      Liberals do rely coo-coo, half-baked entertainers on radio and TV to package their opinions for them. The relatively few that tune into Olbermann, and can stomach his quasi-craziness, are the ones sick of other resources (sans FOX News) who go out of their way to be fair. In doing that, these other resources ensure the viewership of their slightly right of center, usually older and less educated crowd, but do an utter disservice just trying to get the straight dope, but tired of falling asleep at the wheel.

  3. Freeme permalink
    November 7, 2009 6:18 am

    WHO is fueling the flames of Revolution here? Only the dimwitted robots of heightened IGNORANCE would listen to this blubbermann. Perhaps he is overdue for an enema?

    ‘BUZZ WORDS’…racism, bigotry, “orgy of veiled threat and not so veiled racism of white power minority rule” ?

    These are the WORDS of well orchestrated and deliberately contrived COMMIE/FASCIST PROPAGANDA.
    Soon you will see them raise their ugly plans when artists hired by the White House via NEA plaster posters everywhere in this country depicting BO in control as Nazi’s and Commies did with Hitler and Mao, Castro and Saddam Hussein, Che and Chavez. And watch out for the ‘commie messages’ promoting “GLOBAL GOVERNANCE” via misnomers…”Health Care Bill”,
    and ‘CAP and Trade’ energy bill based on pure LIES courtesy of INSANE PELOSI and GOREBULL deceit. Neither bill has anything to do with the tenets to Preamble or to THE CONSTITUTION main body of this sacred document now being trashed by the Commies in office. There are traitors committing treason daily, no matter what ‘party’ they allegedly represent.

    • David Forsmark permalink
      November 7, 2009 6:23 am

      Don’t hold back, tell us how you really feel!

      • In the Know permalink
        November 7, 2009 6:42 am

        Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that, if it comes to that, the aggressors will be incited by the left. I pity those who will take up arms in their name. I have yet to meet a leftist at any range I shoot at.

  4. maggie wade permalink
    November 7, 2009 6:31 am

    Obermann you are terrifying and so is this administration. Your “truth” and MSNBC’s truth is from the prospective of your head up the… America will see through your lies.

    By the way, what is your rating? ” October is also Olbermann’s lowest rated month so far in 2009 in both 25-54 and average viewers” (

    Ooops. It looks like they already have. Good Luck in your new job…you might try Center for American Progress as they aree always looking for folks like you…

  5. John Davidson permalink
    November 7, 2009 6:39 am

    Enough about Olberman, find a staight jacket right away and make sure he has no weapons when they remove him from his throne of insolence.

    Common, GE, join the majority and stop seeking government funds so obviously.

  6. Walt permalink
    November 7, 2009 7:29 am

    I listened and watched Mr Olbermann and Mr. Robinson as they commented on Miscelle Bachmann and the others at the Tea Party earlier this week. All Keith had to say did not require any preparation evidenced by the fact that he had no idea who all was represented and no effort was made to find out. It is no wonder that MSNBC i8s in trouble.

    Although I would defend their right to speak, I have classified them, as well as other stars such as Chris Matthews, as hateful idiots.

  7. Jack Hampton permalink
    November 7, 2009 7:46 am

    Olberman is with out doubt one of the greatest haters I have ever heard. The man is a veritable pissant. Sorry.

    • Howard K Mooney permalink
      November 8, 2009 9:41 am

      You call a man a hater and then a piss ant? Why, dem’s fighting words.

  8. November 7, 2009 9:06 am

    Neither Matthews nor Robinson have an inkling of how many minority conservatives there are or of the indignities and injustices they suffer from the left for daring to think differently from the leftist stereotype. Examples abound: Rice depicted as Aunt Jemima, Clarence Thomas and the pubic hair, etc. That is why you see fewer minorities at Republican Conventions – minority Republicans tend to prefer to operate under the radar. I live in a well-integrated area of this nation and I have only happened on a very few “minorities” who don’t think conservatively – even though most have been programmed to vote Democrat.

    Whenever I hear a leftist make a sorry excuse for an argument on just about any issue, I am reminded of the childhood maxim: when you point a finger, four are pointed back at you. If the left is not mounting a coordinated effort to smear its supposed enemies, then the only explanation I can fathom is that they are projecting their own prejudices and evil machinations onto conservatives. No one could be as ignorant as they purport to be.

    • Joy permalink
      November 7, 2009 11:42 pm

      Hear! Hear! You are SO right about the Libtards projecting their own mysoginist views onto others – preferably Conservatives. All we can do is build our base and shout out our beliefs. One of these years, these dimwits will finally realize that (1) we’re actually in the MAJORITY and (2) there are LOTS of minorities who are Right Thinking, too, and are just as fed up with the mindless idiots on MSNBC as everyone else. Hope they stick around ’til their ratings reflect the 20 percent Liberal leaners in this country. Maybe head south toward 10 percent, too – that would be even more humiliating AND cause the network (NBC) to lose even MORE revenue – YEA!!!

  9. Jake permalink
    November 7, 2009 1:24 pm

    What this blog conveniently omits is the fact that Bachmann did indeed invoke Jefferson’s famous quote that a revolution is required once in a while. In context – that being that both houses of Congress and the White House – were legitimately lost by Republicans via the election process – this might be seen as cowardly, at best, and perhaps borderline seditious. I don’t disagree with her, per se. The problem is that while she and her colleagues were out on the Capitol steps running this sideshow, the legally elected, majority party was inside potentially changing history. My prediction is that, as some form of healthcare reform is in fact passed, images of these people skirting their actual jobs for political theater, will come back to haunt them in a big way this coming summer. That, and the Republicans’ leading Pit Bull, Sarah Palin, quitting the job she was elected by Republicans and Independents (mostly) to do in Alaska so that she could blog on Facebook and write a FOUR-HUNDRED PAGE(?!) book. I don’t know ANY conservative friends who have ever stooped for one day to the level of unprofessionalism, whining, and total lack of national loyalty as represented in the folks they are – in some cases, I’m sure, are forced to – call their leaders. May high caliber Conservatism characterized by true leadership rise again someday – we honest Liberals sorely need it for a collaboratively hopeful future for our nation.

    • Steve R permalink
      November 7, 2009 5:17 pm

      I once believed there were such things as honest Liberals. There may still be a few around, though I tend to think of them as the next endangered species. But — benefit of the doubt here — as an honest Liberal, I’d expect you to condemn, or at least strongly criticize, the extremism of your own side. Let’s say, the SEIU thugs who intimidated, beat up, and browbeat conservatives at some of the summer town hall meetings. Or the ACORN operatives who’ve spent years learning how to subvert honest elections in key states, not to mention giving advice on how to cheat the IRS and employ underage girls as prostitutes. Or House Speaker Nancy Pelosi inferring the Tea Partiers and townhall protesters were Nazis. And all the other verbal mud slinging the Left wing of the Democrat party is so expert at. Your party has fallen under the spell of Socialists and Fascists, I’m afraid, and before thinking conservatives can make common cause with you again your own ranks need to be purged like the Augean stables.

      We’re doing what we can, but your help would be appreciated. 🙂

      • Jake permalink
        November 7, 2009 5:47 pm

        I will assume then that, like me, you despise inane name-calling and thuggish tactics to suppress dissent, thought or action on either side of the aisle, though comical at times, is wrong. The trick is to look beyond the convenient labels we are creating for each other and to look into each others’ eyes, and recognize our common humanity and right to freedom. I look in the mirror and see someone passionately liberal, living an extremely traditional lifestyle in many ways. I look in my conservative friends’ eyes and admit to them that they are good-hearted and would like a world where non-extremists of either side get together and collaborate. I believe in the passionate ideas, not the distortions, of either side, and urge those who can not to allow what the “news” means to them to be formulated and packaged by, generally, people who are entertainers – there to sell ad time, first and foremost, or prop up someone’s powerful special interest. Conservatives and liberals over the course of history have fallen under the spell of their own voices time and again. What, I think, is needed, is for individuals to turn off cable news for a day, a month, a year, etc., and begin to form, for themselves, what they really think about their neighbors, some of whom are Republican, Democrat, straight, gay, minorities, etc. If it is deep-seeded distrust and hate, they should work on ridding themselves of that for their own sakes, so they can have happiness and healthy hearts. If they find that, despite the differences, they can love and abide with their fellow Americans, they should embrace their differences and find ways to again, collaborate, so that we as a nation may progress.

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          November 8, 2009 6:55 am

          Have you ever heard of the Tower of Babel?

          • Jake permalink
            November 8, 2009 9:02 am

            Forgive me for missing your point … (ew boy, here we go)

            • Howard K Mooney permalink
              November 8, 2009 9:38 am

              Jake – didn’t you pay attention in Sunday School? The Tower of Babel was the part where God got angry with people for trying to build a tower too tall. He could see that they were working too efficiently, so he had to shake things up and give us all different languages to we couldn’t cooperate so well. God evidently had an inferiority complex. Anyways, as you can see, his mixing of the languages has forever kept mankind from accomplishing anything too grand. Now, you don’t suppose Jake is intimating that the fringe Republikins are tantamount to “God” judging the wayward Liberals? Or that he is in anyway suggesting that the races be separated … why, that would be just flat out racist.

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 8, 2009 6:53 am

        Steve R
        That is why I have stated on a couple of occasions I do not believe that we can find any common ground with these extremist and make no mistake they are the vicious extremist.

        • Jake permalink
          November 8, 2009 9:06 am

          Jack – If you want it, you’ll find it. If you don’t, good luck. The people are marching on.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 8, 2009 6:40 am

      That was so contrived and phony it is laughable.

      • Jake permalink
        November 8, 2009 9:02 am

        I love you man.

  10. November 7, 2009 2:02 pm

    First time I’ve seen Keith Olbermann perform. I have a different view than most who commented her. I am encouraged by his performance. The man and his show format are so bad that I see opportunity for young people who will soon graduate from college and enter the workforce. Surely his network bosses know that he isn’t worth whatever they pay him. I suspect that within a year he bosses will be looking for a replacement.

    Hey, young people this guy has no talent. Many of you could do better. Surely there is a job waiting. Go for it! And Gene Robinson? Washington Post was it? He sounds like a boob. More jobs await our young people in the newspaper business! Sooner or later publishers will recognize that they are focusing their news or a losing population—the losers in society.

    With the approaching 2010 elections there will be jobs up for grabs in Congress. Many Democrats will be thrown out of office. This will open up jobs for staff members in Congressional offices.

    Yes, indeed, Keith Obermann inspires me. I see a bright future where turkeys like him will be spending their time in the unemployment lines.

  11. David Forsmark permalink
    November 7, 2009 3:11 pm

    It has crossed my mind that they are really double agents designed to turn people off to the Left. It’s a more Vast Right Wing Conspiracy than we thought!

    • November 7, 2009 3:29 pm

      David, I think you are on to something. I’d never thought of it before, but it makes sense.

    • Sarah permalink
      November 8, 2009 12:12 pm

      Jack – Although it is clear that Jake has been brainwashed, try and actually respond to what he said without falling back on categorization and name-calling. Anyone can do that! Besides, if we did turn off our Fox and beloved Rush, it doesn’t matter anyway because w’ere smarter than thay are!

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 8, 2009 11:19 pm

        I have got to be allowed to have a little fun. If you read this insanity enough and do not have some comic relief you would end up clinically depressed. Brain washed? It is in the rinse cycle now waiting to be blow dried.

    • Stu permalink
      November 8, 2009 12:22 pm

      David –
      The very sad fact is that statistics show that far less of our Liberal-traitors out there do not watch Cable or network news like we do. They – pathetically – still prefer, statistics show, to read and listen to a wide variety of sources before making up their own minds on things. So that sorry MSNBC had better think up a new strategy to earn their keep, if you know what I mean. You know what would be awesome?! The Beck / Olbermann show! Don’t think Murdoch isn’t thinking it! Two loons (well, not that Glenn is a loon … but he’s got that kinda’ mock lunacy look about him) going at it! Glenn would smoke his sorry butt!

    • Jake permalink
      November 8, 2009 4:53 pm

      Funny that the woman who said that is now Secretary of State … you folks have to think up new tag lines, because it’s literally like you’re rowing backwards at breakneck speed.

  12. Walter permalink
    November 7, 2009 3:58 pm

    How many times have we heard LEFT WING WHACKOS like Olbermann tell us about “THE CONSTITUTION READING: Separation of church and state is necessary for a free state ? ? ? AND IT’S in the delcaration also!!!

    OLBERMANN – You are a sick minded, lying, selfish man. You can be considered the poster child for the LEFT WING WHACKOS! And they happen to be running the show right now, INTO THE GROUND!

    • Howard K Mooney permalink
      November 8, 2009 9:18 am

      Well, it’s true that John Boehner quoted the Declaration of Independence when he said he was quoting the Constitution. he-he. Thanks, Keith, for pointing that out.

      • David Forsmark permalink
        November 8, 2009 9:57 am

        Mike Pence for Minority Leader (for now) and eventually Speaker!

        • Sarah permalink
          November 8, 2009 12:14 pm

          Totally with ya’ on that David! Boehner’s had it!

  13. November 7, 2009 5:30 pm

    Keith Olberman is a biased ignoramus and liar. The Republican Party was founded as the anti-slavery party, got through the Civil War Amendments, including the Fourteenth Amendment, always had a civil rights plank in its platform. He cannot rebut the arguments of those opposed to the Pelosi-Obama Health-Care Bill, so he calls the critics names.

    • Howard K Mooney permalink
      November 8, 2009 9:27 am

      It is a historical fact that conservatives, both Democrat and Republican, stood against Supreme Court intervention into states’ attempts to buttress segregation, and to the Civil Rights Act of 1964. One prominent viewpoint was that black minorities should get their full rights as citizens, but only when market forces so dictated. Hmmm. Sounds just like a conservative … as long as it’s not them or their backyard, they’re happy. Democrats riskily took that mantle, because they are ultimately more righteous and people-oriented, and are realizing its dividends today. By the way, it was also the conservatives of their day who stood against the colonialists who promoted rebellion against the King of England because, they were certain, he was appointed by God and his rule should not be tampered with, lest we ruin God’s grand design. Sound familiar. It’s the same today – the only difference that Kings have become corporations, banks, insurance companies … always, always happy to have the programmed do their bidding from beginning until the lights go out.

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 8, 2009 10:57 pm

        Yea yea and unemployment will never go past 8% either and Obama has created a million shovel ready jobs. We know you have one of them shoveling crap.

        • Howard K Mooney permalink
          November 9, 2009 12:36 pm

          But Jack – even if Obama fails and gets voted out in one term, where does that leave you? A whining foot soldier for the right which, after having had the White House for the previous EIGHT YEARS, and both houses for 6 of 8 years, flubbed up our nation so bad in every imaginable way -domestic, foreign, cosmic, scientific, geriatrific, etc – that (plausibly speaking here) my dog would’ve done a better job. You can only blame yourselves! My recommendation is that you taking a “rising sun” mentality, so to speak, and get out of these blog-o-spheres and start trying to help your party come up with ways to ACTUALLY push our nation forward the next time you have EIGHT YEARS (!?) We’re not talking 8 years of Rinos! We’re talking the absolute most conservative team since McCarthy and Nixon were caught in the back of that limo together! You remind me of the Democrats in the 80s — wah, wah, wah!

          I was encouraged today to see Mitt Romney acting presidential. That was nice. I don’t mind if he dogs my people. Although I hope that Robert Gates manages to succeed in his current role (as all patriotic, loyal Americans undoubtedly do), I suggest you guys run “Romney/Gates” in 2012! That’d kick our BUTTS. That coming from a guy who in 1998, as a Republican, sideline picked your man GW to win the White House – but his absolutely sickening tactics to get there opened my eyes early – and I had the good fortune to never vote for him, but – at least early in his presidency – went to bat for him, even though I knew he was gunning for Iraq (as any informed person knew) from before day one (I was not surprised, but not utterly shocked that he didn’t switch gears to finish the job in Afghanistan rather than pursue Dick Cheney’s ego driven war with no connection, other than skin color, to 9-11). Whatever you do not, do not promote Sarah Palin as President!!! You’ll lose, I promise. Go Romney/Gates. I swear! Sure, you’re evangelicals may have some doing getting over the Mormon thing, but given as the “5000 Year Leap” is in fact Mormon, I think all these versions of White, straight oriented Christianities are finally willing to accept each other temporally, eternity be damned, in order to make sure that our system of “pull up your boot straps – if you have boots, and don’t give me any of that “in as much as you do it unto the least of my brethren, you do it to unto me” liberal ‘crap’ (as you like to say) – super, successful economy where the only ones winning handouts are the excessively rich – why the lowly, like you and me, play our roles. Ah. Freedom is great.

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            November 10, 2009 2:38 am

            Obama is failing miserably and the democraps are going to suffer next election badly. He is a one trick pony that can do nothing but talk about him self. Now I appreciate Bush keeping the country safe and he was right in those efforts but as stated on another thread if it were in my power I would prosecute Bush criminally for other failures for not securing the border and the resulting needless deaths of an average oof 22 people daily at the hands of illegal aliens who had no right to be here and that is helping destroy the black middle class so I am far from happy with Bush. The Republican forgot what got them elected and went into RINO m ode they are just now starting to realize there failure. We need to get rid of a few more and then remember the foundations the republic was built on. But the Democrats are destroying them self with there over the top left wing agenda. I will vote for a conservative no matter who they are. If it is Mitt Romney fine or Sarah Palin fine.

            • Howard K Mooney permalink
              November 10, 2009 10:52 pm

              “them self?” oops. Pity da po fool.

            • Howard K Mooney permalink
              November 10, 2009 10:56 pm

              Yeah – but he’s 47 and president, and you’re here calling other people “Democraps” and torturing the English language. Hmmm. Come to think of it, you’d fit right in as Sarah Palin’s running mate. Go for it.

              • Jack Hampton permalink
                November 11, 2009 4:38 am

                Yea I am torturing the english language but fact is I am able to do pretty much what ever I want with said language depending on my mood and time. I never had any desire to be President especially in this day and age, you see my parents were married to each other. I have had a great career two as a matter of fact and still have a damn good time I have a wonderful wife and family I do not sit around thinking of myself as a victim or with some pathetic grudge like you. It is obvious that you are torturing your self or you are possessed of tortured logic so I shall leave you to your own dispair and misery that you have consigned yourself to.

                • Cynthia permalink
                  November 11, 2009 7:37 am

                  “a great career two as a matter of fact” ? What the heck, Jack?!

                  If you didn’t think of yourself as a victim, you wouldn’t be whining so much all the way through, with or with any sense of English.

                  First sign of victims: Call the aggressor names – for it is a sign that you’ve lost control. Let’s see … “Democraps.” Yup, you’re a victim.

                  • Howard K Mooney permalink
                    November 11, 2009 7:44 am

                    Cynthia – What happened? Don’t on your buddy Jack! Don’t tell me you’re seeing the light!

                  • Cynthia permalink
                    November 11, 2009 8:03 am

                    “Don’t on” what, Mooney? Don’t cozy up to me! I despise Democrats or Republicans, whatever In The Know said. It’s just that, No. 1: Why can’t there be 2 women running?! We Republicrats (I’ll just say that until I get this figured out) can do whatever we want! Look at Carrie Prejean! She’s done whatever she wants – and completely by herself. Think of what two of us could do together! So, that comment by Jack kind of makes me mad, that he said that. No. 2: I learned at my (thankfully Christian) hoamschoole that the surest sign of a victim mentality is someone who has to take the time to even say they’re not the victim. That formulation of thought means that they actually might be walking around with a psychological conflict, thinking that hidden forces out there (ironically, it’s actually in their head) are trying to attack them. Isn’t it weird – usually that comes from having an overbearing parental figure (usually the mom — eeek! When I get with my future husband, I shall remember that)

                    So, okay, I’m losing a little respect for my friend Jack. What I am seeing is that all this is about for him and you is the size of your members! It’s always this way with you men! Even more reason to get those 2, Palin/Bachmann running together to shore up our party. I MIGHT even recommend Carrie Prejean for their press secretary … she is so gorgeous and speaks with such conviction! I’m thinking it’s our men that are ruining the party. Oh well.

                  • Jack Hampton permalink
                    November 11, 2009 11:27 am

                    You get pissed kind of easy I stated that Bachman has made it clear that she is not interested and that I would support Palin I am nither Democrap or Republican. As I explained the word is discriptive for my use. I do not care one bit what you respect seriously doubt you repect yourself. I just will not be able to sleep tonight.

                  • Jack Hampton permalink
                    November 11, 2009 11:45 am

                    I just read your response to Mooney I apoligise. I did not know you were a child throwing a temper tantrum I can only imagine you suffer from penis envy or you are simply nuts do not have a clue what brought on those comments. I have never refered to anything like that.Seek help.

              • Jack Hampton permalink
                November 11, 2009 5:11 am

                I will add one more comment for you. I would gladly stand with Sarah Palin any day because she is was woman of principal and integrity on the other hand your savior and party the democraps have associated them self with ACORN who are corrupt to the core and even attempts to purvey child prostitution and hold them as veritable slaves. They are currently involved in over thirty investigation including voter fraud forgery to outright thievery yet this vile organization is the hand maiden of the democrap party. Next you have the SEIU a thuggish cabal that would make Ernst Rohm proud not to mention the other individual association of your saviors cohorts including the racist punk preacher Rev. Wright to William Ayers and his bride Bernadette Dorn both still being investigated for murder. The list goes on it seems for ever your beloved party is a veritable infestation of communist, Two have recently been forced to resign under clouds. I could continue but I would be at this key board all day. The democrap party is an abomination. Yep give me Sarah Palin a hard working mother and a person of decency any day.

                • November 11, 2009 5:28 am

                  I’m a Sarah Palin fan. She strikes me as a good and decent woman. A person of good character. Yes, she’s young and I’m sure there are lots of things she couldn’t possibly know, but it’s clear Obama knows even less. I’ve never seen a White House Administration less competent. They are on a course to destroy America’s economy. I don’t know whether that is out of ignorance or disdain for our government. Looking at the people Obama surrounded himself with, I suspect it is the latter. The year 2012 Presidential Election can’t come fast enough for me.

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            November 10, 2009 3:30 am

            Put the pipe down and step away from the dope. By the way have you had your red chili burrito today? You have plenty of gas.

      • In the Know permalink
        November 9, 2009 6:59 am

        Nice try on the history lesson. Now, let’s get the facts straight. Liberals did indeed found this country. You sir are the victim of a poor education (at best). Modern liberals are in fact, Tories. God, King, Country is the basic Tory ideology. You see Howard, The United States and Switzerland are the only countries where the parties that advocate a consolidated central government that has complete control are called Liberals. The republican party, at its founding, was as liberal as they come. The democrats, mostly southern slave owners, despised them. It was so bad, at one point, Preston Brooks ( a democratic congressman from SC) caned senator Charles Sumner (a republican) on the floor of the Senate. The Wiki article is slightly misleading in the fact that it espouses the attack was due to an insult, however, the insult was a veiled attack on slavery and the democratic support thereof. You see, although you think your reference to “conservatives” is a historical “gotcha”, you are in fact dead wrong. Also, due to your lack of knowledge, you have opened the proverbial can of worms on, to quote you, “Democrats riskily took that mantle, because they are ultimately more righteous and people-oriented, and are realizing its dividends today.” Your righteous people fought tooth and nail for slavery. Your party campaigned on a platform against Lincoln (whom your golden child loves to quote) that fervently advocated the protection of slavery. The modern Democratic party was infiltrated in the late 20’s by master propogandists….communists. They lie, cheat, steal; anything to advance their ideology. They found support in the demagogues of Hollywood and the Progressives. People so in love with themselves that just a little flatery would rally them as the saviors of society. This is a fact, for more details, read the writings of a former member, Mr. David Horowitz. These neo-communists realized that, in order to gain control in this country, one could not take it by force as they did in Europe. To quote a great military strategist, “You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass.”-Admiral Yamamoto. They understood this, so, they implemented a strategy to “change” the dialogue. In order to distance themselves from their past evils (Jim Crow, Slavery, Poll tax/tests), the neo-communists began “flipping the script”, up is down, white is black. They exploited racial bias on all levels. Secretly playing puppet master in the background. Supporting any and all levels of dissent with the mainstream while repeating lie after lie. Rewriting history, espousing opinion as fact. A great example is the Liberal misnomer “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism” attributed to Thomas Jefferson.” LIE! That came from Marxist Howard Zinn. Change, Hope, these are words used in Bolshevik propoganda during “Red October” in imperial Russia. PLEASE! I am not admonishing you. You have been mislead. Please research accurate, truthful history. If you do, you will find that something just doesn’t jive with your “Liberal” (actually conservative) rendition of events.

        • In the Know permalink
          November 9, 2009 8:17 am

          For clarification purposes, republicans are liberal in the traditional sense. The exact opposite of what tories stood (and stand) for. Again, the modern usage of the term (in the US) is incorrect, 180 degrees opposite of its true meaning.

          • Jake permalink
            November 9, 2009 11:47 am

            Okay, okay. I’ll start referring to my Republican friends at the coffee shop as liberals. They’ll love that.

            Which begs the question: Why are you so eager to be the “liberal” one, anyways? Hmmm. Time to come out of the closet, my friend.

        • Cynthia permalink
          November 9, 2009 12:05 pm

          In the know –
          Thanks for your history lesson, even I – a dyed in the red Republican – didn’t realize all that stuff. I guess I can thank my liberal (I guess I should now call it my conservative) collage education! I imagine our poor friend, Jake, is too Libtardo to even begin to understand what you are saying.

          Oh – and Jake! Nice try on that “come out of the closet” thing! I supose you are one of those unChristian groups trying to say that gays should be allowed to marry like us?! Here the “conservatives” (shout out to you In the Know) trying to “change” established institutions again for the sake of what?! Gays who say they have a right to grow up and fall in love, and make a lifelong commitment to their mate, just like us straights! Well, sir, it ain’t in the Bible! In the Bible, God said to stone gays, but Jesus wouldn’t stone people, so we won’t. But why don’t liberals or conservatives or whatever you are stop trying to expand people’s rights! What is is set forth in the Constitution! I’m with Scalia! I’m and originalist, not an evolutionist! If it is’nt mentioned there, you have no right to it! That’s why women, like me, should expect the government to get in the doctor’s office when we get pregnant! The right to privacy is NOT in the Constitution – lib/conservitardo! That was a (of course) misinterpretation by a half-baked (probably LSD taking) 1960s Supreme Court … undo it!

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            November 10, 2009 3:24 am

            I am not trying to be a jerk because I am terrible at spelling when I get in a hurry and type with two fingers But what is a collage education? I just went to night school and never got that. If it is a typo disregard. By the way any red chili burrito eaters on this thread?

        • Howard K Mooney permalink
          November 9, 2009 12:49 pm

          In the Snow –

          I have reason to believe you’re wrong, have proof of such, and that you have gone stark-raving mad! But that will have to remain between me and our maker, with whom I have an inside channel … for I am actually the one in the know.

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            November 9, 2009 1:16 pm

            That is really funny doubt you even know your shoe size much less anything else.

            • Howard K Mooney permalink
              November 9, 2009 2:00 pm

              Jack – My hands and feet are so much bigger than yours, it makes women quake as I walk by. I don’t even need to know my shoe size!

              • Jack Hampton permalink
                November 10, 2009 3:33 am

                It is the results of that red chili burrito you ate that makes people swoon when you pass by.Hahahaha

          • In the Know permalink
            November 10, 2009 2:25 pm


            Belief is subjective. It does not change fact. What I told is 100 percent accurate. What you do with it that information is your choice.

  14. K. P. permalink
    November 8, 2009 1:15 pm

    Keith, quit spreading lies. She did not incite violence, and only encouraged citizens to exercise constitutional rights to express their opinion. Why are the rules different when it’s people who don’t agree. Quit discriminating and marginalizing. Lest you forget the debate is not about what feels good, the government has ONLY certain powers. End of debate unless one can make a case that everything proposed falls within those bounds.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 8, 2009 11:29 pm

      You are more than correct what Bachmann helped do on the capital steps was a good response that is what congress listens to and Bachman and Palin and most conservative talk about hope and the ability of Americans to overcome adversity and about a brighter future these women along with some others are the future leaders that will lead this nation out of the darkness.

      • Cynthia permalink
        November 10, 2009 11:12 pm

        I am sooo excited about Palin/Bachman 2012! First of all, as a staunchly Republican woman, I love it that they’re both so pretty! Americans are going to get smart, beautiful, powerful all in one! Plus, Sarah had witches prayed out of her – what Dummycrat can say that?!

        The truth is though, that – have you heard – ACORN blackmailed Sarah Palin to make her quit her job!!! They put a big moose head in her bed when Todd wasn’t looking! They said that she’s despicable for trying to hide her daughter’s pregnancy and then, when it was (duh) discovered, using it as a political prop, and that they’re going to bring that up next time she’s running for anything. These people will stop at nothing, so Sarah had to quit to get the liberal, leftwing media off her back! They keep making her make her family a political football, kind of like Obama constantly talks about his wife and kids at every turn, and did during the election season – pretending HE is the family-values candidate. I with you, Jack! DEMOCRAPS! I usually don’t go in for name-calling, b/c it’s so immature, but I have to say, you’re right! You don’t sound one bit stupid – don’t listen to Howard! He’s a libtardo!

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          November 11, 2009 5:19 am

          Thank you for your kind comment my use of the word Democrap is more descriptive than name calling I do not however believe you will see that ticket in 2012. I believe that if Palin were to run she would select a male as VP probably somone with a lot of military experience. Bachman has stated she has no intention of running. Again thank you for your kindness.

          • Howard K Mooney permalink
            November 11, 2009 8:35 am

            “more descriptive than name calling I do not however believe”?


            ew, boy. Back to night school for Jacky-poo.

            • In the Know permalink
              November 11, 2009 11:37 am

              You red herring assault on a typo is pathetic. What’s next meme’s?

            • Jack Hampton permalink
              November 11, 2009 12:03 pm

              Mooney The Looney
              Well beat me with a stick hahaha I did really well at that school. If you can do half as well in your life I will applaud you.

  15. John Davidson permalink
    November 9, 2009 11:58 am

    I nmotice GE wanted to unload NBC. Quite a drastic move in order to distance themselves from the group at MSNBC, but probably the cheapest way to do it. Those crybabies would sue upon the arrival of the ‘pink’ slip.

  16. Tom Rapp permalink
    November 23, 2009 4:17 pm

    This is my first visit here, and I’ll be back again to read your articles, but I simply can’t bear to think about Obermann right now. The man is a supreme clod.

    On msnbc, I’ve heard them put down Fox viewers. Not simply the network, but the people who watch it. I have yet to hear Fox do likewise. To me, that says it all.

  17. Josh permalink
    December 5, 2009 9:50 am

    Hahahahaha…. O my God , anything of a protest is now labeled hate.. Lets go into our time machine… and review all the hate against President Bush for 8 years… Oberman needs to get laid to get him happy.


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