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Obama’s Ft. Hood Reaction is Far Worse than the Left’s Smear of Bush’s “Pet Goat” Moment

November 7, 2009

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Will President Barack Obama be able to avoid negative attention for his initial reaction to the Fort Hood Massacre?  His first speech after the killing of at least 13 soldiers on a US military base showed a complete lack of any presidential leadership.  It may (and should) go down in history as far worse than the “Pet Goat” incident.

On September 11, 2001 President George W. Bush heard a plane had hit the World Trade Center when he was about to hear elementary kids read a book to him at a school in Florida.  Bush had a whisper in his ear from Andrew Card about the plane while he was in front of a group of small children.  At that point the complete picture of a full scale terrorist attack was not known.  Bush knew something was happening, but he did not know how bad, and he did not want to frighten the kids in front of him.

The book the children read to him was called “The Pet Goat” and that incident has been used to attack Bush by the Left ever since.  Some have tried to use it to say Bush was a poor leader. Many (those we now know as 9-11 Truthers)  have even used the incident as “proof” that Bush knew 9-11 would happen.

Editor’s Note: For more on 9/11 Truthers see NewsReal’s “Crackpot Chronicles” series.

After meeting with the children and getting more information, President Bush gave a short but powerful press conference to the country.  It showed great leadership and clarity on what was going on. You can debate if he should have immediately ran out on the kids and then made his speech, but there is no debating the strength of his first public words on the incident.

As the world watched he started out his speech:

“Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward, and freedom will be defended.”

Now compare that to Obama’s first public statement on the Ft. Hood Massacre.

While the world was watching and waiting for a strong President – what they got were comments about how good some little conference was and shout outs to a buddy of the President.  The media was reporting on a terrorist (though many are afraid to use that term) killing US soldiers on our own soil and they went to the President live, setting him up for one of those great Obama speech moments. But this is what we got as his first words:

“Let me first of all just thank Ken and the entire Department of the the Interior Staff for organizing just an extraordinary conference. Uh, I want to thank my cabinet members and senior administration officials who participated today. Uh, I hear that Dr. Joe “Medicine” Crow was around.  So I want to give a shout out…My understanding is, is that you uh had an extremely productive conference.”

You have got to be kidding me! Those type of comments go on for two minutes.  He ignores Ft. Hood while below his video feed, every cable news channel talks about a massacre and soldiers dead. When he finally gets to talking of Ft. Hood there is no sign of a President ready to respond to terrorism. As details scrolled on news feeders below him, his first words on the incident were:

“We don’t yet know all the details at this moment.  We will share them as we get them… We will make sure we get answers to every single question about this horrible incident… I hope all of you recognize the scope of this tragedy.”

President Obama then goes on to make closing comments about the conference he was at. He shows no grasp of “the scope of this tragedy.”

Remember the 2am phone call commercial that Hillary Clinton‘s campaign put out that questioned Obama’s readiness to lead in crisis?  That ad was meant to scare Democrat voters about Obama’s ability to lead. Well, the President’s reaction to the Ft. Hood Massacre should scare us all.

Editor’s Note: See NewsReal’s previous commentaries on the Fort Hood Massacre:

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87 Comments
  1. November 7, 2009 5:58 am

    This was pathetic. I initially thought that the news was airing previous comments by the President, and that, eventually, we would get a “live” statement.

    Nope, that was it.

    Unbelievable. Worse than my first reaction:

    http://rightasusual.blogspot.com/2009/11/ft-hood-shootings.html

  2. baldone permalink
    November 7, 2009 6:08 am

    Hasan was NOT a man with no options.

    Like other Americans, he could have refused to serve and have borne the consequences.

    Those protesters didn’t shoot people who chose to serve.
    The Left would have canonized Hasan for protesting the war.

  3. baldone permalink
    November 7, 2009 6:14 am

    Obama should have begun by saying
    “In a moment,
    I will talk
    about this conference.
    But, first of all,
    I need to comment
    on the tragedy
    which occurred
    at Ft. Hood.”

  4. November 7, 2009 6:42 am

    I agree, Obama looked totally lost and clueless. How could he even consider continuing with the conference without first commenting on the tragic terrorist actions at Fort hood. Even worse was the followup by the liberal news talking head, that tried to make Obama look presidential. Anyone watching him, can see Obama is nothing but a Chicago union organizer and not worth being called President of the United States. At the end when obama said God bless America, I was thinking about his minister Wright’s comments, God Damn America. Since being in office, all we have got from Obama is God Damn America in his many apologies. Now we can watch for the coverup of Major Hasan and his conversion to Mulim as the real reason he went on his terrorist shooting spree. Post Trumatic Stress is whats being used now as the reason for Hasan’s actions. Major Hasan never served in a combat zone, but he did create his own at Fort Hood.

    • Paul Cooper permalink
      November 7, 2009 7:12 am

      foxmulder – good point on Wright. I am sure Obama’s mentor see this incident as America’s “chickens coming home to roost”. And deep down, Obama may just believe the same thing.

  5. Michael van der Galien permalink
    November 7, 2009 6:52 am

    This was pathetic. I initially thought that the news was airing previous comments by the President, and that, eventually, we would get a “live” statement.

    I think most thought like that… but no… That was it. He didn’t have anything more to say about it.

    Like other Americans, he could have refused to serve and have borne the consequences.

    Dead on. If that was the problem, that he didn’t want to serve in Iraq, he could’ve refused to do so, lived with the consequences, that’s it. This wasn’t about that – it was, in my opinion, clearly about his extremist views.

    @Baldone: yes, that would have been the correct reaction.

  6. ledball permalink
    November 7, 2009 7:05 am

    President” Deer in the Headlights”! He fills me with confidence. The man couldn’t lead down a yellow brick road even if he had a map!

    • Edward permalink
      November 7, 2009 7:36 am

      Hate to tell you. He IS LEADING WITH CONFIDENCE but leading our enemies and creating an Ebb & Flow so that we get use to his insensitivity and lack of care for our Constitution.
      With the bar lowered, he can then select to “live” in the next level. Keep an eye now, after the Health Bill Disaster that will put all of us in a bind, for his next project for year 2: Organizing Internal Police Forces that operate outside the other branches and will begin dispersing in sections around the country taking over the governance of the National Guard. On year 3, he will begin to place strong legislation to ban weapons, year 4 before the election, there will be some sort of “emergency” (Created by conditions he produced) and call upon this National Police Force to further enforce his policies. Once this is done, Polls will not be able to operate since this “National Emergency” will be in place and it will be “North Venezuela”with our stars changed to 50 Hammer & Sickles.
      Keep this post alive (Copy and distribute as much as possible) and read it back 3 years from now and your hair will rise. By that time they would track me down and arrest me for such discourse.
      I know this because I once lived in a country with this exact Game Plan. Watch Obama be more bold about his personal attitudes towards all of us that don’t stand by him or try to protect our liberties. We simply need to vote out as many supporters of his bills in 2010 before it’s too late. Yes, some of us have to vote Republican, but I rather compromise towards this party than to a Centralized Socialist Tyranny. It’s coming faster than you think. This Ft Hood Video is liken to a cough one gets when they have Lung Cancer, it’s nothing big on it’s own but it’s a symptom of a huge devastating and “life-ending” progression.
      Like early warnings of cancer, you let it “be” and it prevents you from being alive later on.

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 8, 2009 3:37 am

        Edward
        I do not believe he will get that far. I believe that events are turning on him as we comunicate. Just as in WW2 and other wars the American people are slow to anger but when aroused it can change things in one day. I believe in the coming election you will see enough democrat leftist booted it will up end his agenda. More people are marching and staging protest in D.C. that have never protested anything in there lives. So far he has not had a lot of luck passing his hoped for health care that is on the Canadian model and Crap & Trade is dead. People are starting to realize we are fighting for the very existance of the republic.

        • alfonzo permalink
          November 8, 2009 10:36 am

          that’s in line with the funny new scare tactic…if we don’t win in the 2010 elections, there won’t be elections in 2012….I gotta give it to ya’ll, …excellent on the drama and demagoguery!…you even scared me…ha ha ….

          • Steve R permalink
            November 8, 2009 12:20 pm

            if you’re scared now, wait until your messiah’s agenda comes to full flower. People like you, who see but refuse to ‘get it’, are a greater threat to liberty than the out-and-out cockroaches who make no pretense about their purpose.

            • alfonzo permalink
              November 8, 2009 1:03 pm

              see more insults with no facts….and more demagoguery – “threat to liberty”….wow I do feel empowered that I could be such a grave threat…perhaps I am one of those “elitist”…and that grants me such power….at least I am not the roach….

    • Steve R permalink
      November 8, 2009 12:15 pm

      what you’re saying is: he couldn’t find his @$$ with both hands and a compass. 🙂

  7. jake permalink
    November 7, 2009 7:15 am

    It was no worse than Bush joking about 9/11, as he did on numerous occasions.

    • Paul Cooper permalink
      November 7, 2009 7:54 am

      Jake, What in the world are your referring to? Give me some links on this claim.

    • Jake permalink
      November 7, 2009 9:56 pm

      Hey stupid when did President bush ever joke about 9/11. My problem wiith him he didn’t make a concretatedneffrt to get the person responsible, he never joked about if. Get a life and see what is ging on in this country. Your health bill just went partly in thre toilet

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 8, 2009 7:14 am

        Jake
        That is not what you said. You us where he laughed Stupid. Are you drinking this time of day? I doubt the health care bill will pass the senate. It was always going to pass in the house but there will be people losing there seat because of it.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 8, 2009 3:51 am

      Jake
      Can you provide an example of Bush joking about 9/11. Where exactly did you pull that out of?

      • alfonzo permalink
        November 8, 2009 9:38 am

        he didn’t ridicule 911…nor did he cause 911., his response was horrible …but he did ridicule “looking for Saadam”…under the desk, in front of a woman who’s son died in Iraq…for…the autrocities perpetuated by SAUDIS…..as the Iraq war was sold to the American public as a response to 911…read HJ res 114 (the Iraq war resolution)……

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          November 8, 2009 10:52 pm

          Alfonzo
          Bush never claimed the Saddam was involved with 9/11 so do not try selling that garbage here. Bush did not have anything to do with any damn house resolution they pass them all the time. It is kind of like me saying I declare does not mean anything. The whole economic mess was created by democraps forcing banks to make loans to people that could not afford them. You need to smell some of the shovel ready crap you are shoveling.

          • alfonzo permalink
            November 9, 2009 9:10 am

            The declaration of war in Iraq…mentions 911 three times…W and Cheney tried to sell the war in Iraq with a Saadam/Osama connection….Cheney as recently as 6 months ago , said we can’t prove there wasn’t a connection….and as far as the economic collapse…I have blamed no one…are you feeling defensive?…I simply stated the FACT that W contributed 5 trillion dollars to our national debt (without accounting for war).I do find it humorous that it was the fault of a Presidency that started 16 years ago…with an 8 years gap that the genius gop could have fixed, if indeed Bill caused such a problem…By the way, just because you like to use potty humor, that doesn’t make you more right, just more right wing. Your debate teacher would be proud of the language you use in defending your claims.

      • Steve R permalink
        November 8, 2009 12:23 pm

        he pulled it out of a place where the sun never shines. 🙂

        • alfonzo permalink
          November 8, 2009 12:55 pm

          yeah , but I pulled my response from hj res 114, the declaration of war against Iraq

  8. Edward permalink
    November 7, 2009 7:21 am

    I heard about this clip and could not believe how this man has lowered the bar for the position of the United States. This “Once” great country has really done a horrific job of selecting this person.
    My other sadness, beyond the casualties of the our brothers and arms from the Ft Hood “Terrorist Attack” is for the men and women and the families of the Secret Service that have to put their lives on the line everyday to protect this man.
    They should arrest him for several reasons:
    1-Treason
    2-Putting at Real Risk the Constitution
    3-Undermining the security of the United States at every chance
    4-Placing communists in key positions without oversight of the congress
    5-He referred to the Founding Fathers (in several interviews) as the “So-Called (with a smirk) Founding Fathers”
    We need not spend more time gathering evidence, we don’t need to, it just comes to us, to suggest Obama is a socialist and perhaps even a Communist. What we should be doing is voting out people that either follow him blindly or elect to follow his policies. My guess is that the NEA and the school system did a great job of educating the “masses” into voting for this man. So, in a way, the public school system did do an excellent job: To vote for an Enemy Of The United States. If you don’t believe, watch the Ft Hood Video and then watch others. It will become clear once you see the patterns.

    • alfonzo permalink
      November 8, 2009 8:52 am

      #1—-Treason: the offense acting to overthrow one’s government or to harm or kill its sovereign….think Rick Perry
      #2—-Putting at real risk the Constitution:…..think Patriot Act…as it omits amendments 5,6,&7

      #3—Undermining our security at every chance….think that Obama has made it further without being attacked….think of our lack of resources to engage Iran, because we wasted our resources in Iraq…when we were attacked by SAUDIS…..who W likes to hold hands with and take pleasure walks at the ranch

      #4—Placing in key positions—-Think Michel Brown…..

      #5—-Referring to the founding fathers—-Think John Boehner….as he really does a good job of quoting the very most important documents from our founding fathers…

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 9, 2009 1:11 pm

        Garbage all of the above. Are you sure you are not Bill Ayers? You have been wrong about everything and are unable to even understand right from wrong. You are simply a waste of time its’s laid out for you and you still do not get it you have drank the Koolaide.

  9. Jack Hampton permalink
    November 7, 2009 7:28 am

    I never understood the critics of Bush’s reaction at the event with the children. He did what any responsible adult would do. He did not jump up and storm out scaring and upsetting the children.
    I believe Obama’s comments reflects his and the lefts attitude toward soldiers and the military in general. They are just tolerated by these snide leftist that regard there lives as Santa Anna in his movie role in the Alamo says “as so many chickens”

    I was struck by the comment of one soldier after the attack by the coward on the unarmed soldiers that said “We are supposed to be a family” I would like that soldier to know that the coward was never a member of the family. He was a member of a death cult that is as bad now as they were when described by Winston Churchill in the River Wars. The family of this soldier is the ones that responded with courage and honor that pulled the wounded from the building even as the coward was still firing. His family was the five foot woman that confronted this pig that somehow got labeled a soldier and shot him to bring an end to his murderous and cowardly actions. Coward is the only word to describe him he knew these people would be unarmed and fairly helpless.

    • Paul Cooper permalink
      November 7, 2009 7:41 am

      Amen Jack

    • November 7, 2009 12:46 pm

      You’re right on the money, JH. I’ll add an answer to your question. Of course Bush responded the way any responsible parent would have done. But it’s a point of view that the Left can’t recognize because they’ve remained children, emotionally and morally, and don’t understand the roll of the adult or the parent. Responsibility is for grownups.

  10. Dwana S. permalink
    November 7, 2009 7:50 am

    I am appalled that our President spoke about a “CONFERENCE”? when a tragedy had just occurred on our soil within our OWN military. What a sad day for not just the horrific tragedy in Ft. Hood, but for we Americans as well. Our leadership is not “for the people” unfortunately. I saw no sadness in his face, nor heard no sadness in his voice. Some could say that I should not speak out, but because of dedicated and caring forefathers I have that right. May God bless our wonderful country and help us to get through some difficult years ahead. I challenge anyone to listen to the video of his first announcement regarding this tragedy and find some true emotion for Ft Hood and for our country. We ranked behind a conference speech. Sad.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 8, 2009 4:02 am

      Dwana
      You are right and the military picks that up and does it quickly. The democraps and the left will never understand the true affection the military had for President Bush. They just do not get it.

  11. Christopher permalink
    November 7, 2009 9:17 am

    This is completely irrational on every level (YOUR reactions, not his).
    1. Comparing 9/11 to the Ft. Hood shootings is 110% ludicrous. Period. Not even in the same boat, not even in the same body of water. Period. Which pretty much makes the rest of your insane and inane accusations pointless.
    2. Irrational people can be whipped up by anything. This is just another case in point.
    3. Where were all of you who care about ‘freedom’ and the ‘constitution’ when Bush was dismantling this country day by day, right by right? I hope you were all out holding your signs inspired by Thomas Paine and Jefferson. Because Bush sat this country back 100 years with his continual abuse of power and assaults on freedom and privacy.
    4. Obama didn’t have the facts about the shootings yet. To comment on the tragedy would have been as ridiculous and illogical as the accusations being tossed around on here. When you’re in a position of power (and I don’t know if any of you here are though I highly doubt it seeing your knee-jerk reactions) you wait until you have all the facts, THEN you speak about it. At the time when Obama spoke, there was no reason to assume this was anything other than what we see every day in America: Someone who went nuts and started shooting people.
    Was Columbine terrorism? No? I didn’t think so.
    Every time someone picks up a gun and starts shooting (IE: Yesterday in Florida) it ISN’T terrorism, no matter how badly you are clamoring for it to be. Sometimes it’s just a pissed off, crazy person.

    You guys want to be miserable and unhappy. You choose to be. So you create your own little world where your uneducated opinions justify whatever it is you feel like believing. Fortunately, you’re in the fringe mass minority. Even most raging right wingers I know right now realize this was an isolated incident and in no way terrorism.

    Every since Cheney and the DHS stripped you of your freedom and feelings of security, you’ve been jumping under tables every time a car backfires and collecting duct tape. It’s time to come up out of your spider holes and realize that the world has violence in it. Always has and always will. You cannot, no matter how badly you want to justify it, refer to every killing as terrorism, ESPECIALLY when it’s on an army base where people have immediate access to guns. People go crazy sometimes. Although you may not be violent (and I cannot say for sure) you guys are definitely a little ‘off’, which proves my point perfectly. And with the amount of right wingers who have shaken themselves up mentally, it’s the party that exactly shows what I’m talking about. “Grab yer guns! Things are going our way after 8 years of abject and total failure! Protect yer own! There comin’ to git our gunnnnssssss!!!!”

    No offense but really….you people are NOT the ones best educated to talk about sanity vs. insanity or rational vs. irrational. You begged to be stripped of your rights and privacy during the Patriot Act so the government would ‘protect’ you and now you want them back because you decided it’s not the governments role to protect you and care for you and do all the things you need done?

    The truth cannot adjust itself to justify your opinions. Sorry. That’s just reality.

    • In the Know permalink
      November 7, 2009 12:28 pm

      Reality is, your entire argument is based upon a tu quoque making it logically invalid. Sorry, that’s a fact Christopher. Not to mention, point 3 is subjective and point 4 is chronologically impossible. A friendly reminder, here is the definition of terrorism:

      The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.

      Jihad (the waging of war against infidels (non muslims)) is ideological. Jihad does not have to consist of a large conspiracy, it is a mindset.

      Your ad hominem abusive, “So you create your own little world where your uneducated opinions justify whatever it is you feel like believing.”, is only one of many overt logical fallacies included in your “rant”. Congratulations! You sure showed us. If you would like some more pie (humble’s the only one on the menu here), I love to bake.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 8, 2009 6:16 am

      Christopher
      This comment very possibly might be the dumbest and most deluded comment I have ever read on just about any blog. It defies reality. I can only surmise that like the old pinball machines you have hit tilt.

      1. “Comparing 9/11 to the Ft. Hood shootings is 110% ludicrous. Period. Not even in the same boat, not even in the same body of water. Period. Which pretty much makes the rest of your insane and inane accusations pointless” It is reported by those present that the coward shouted Allah snack Bar before he started shooting. He was as stated by family a devout Muslim and compared the 9/11 killers as being equal to a soldier that throws himself on a grenade to save his fellow soldiers. His exclamation of God is Great shows this to be a terrorist act just as those that flew the planes into the buildings killing innocent unarmed people just as this coward did. We also now know that he was spouting anti American propaganda reported on FOX news by those that worked with him.

      3. “Where were all of you who care about ‘freedom’ and the ‘constitution’ when Bush was dismantling this country day by day, right by right? I hope you were all out holding your signs inspired by Thomas Paine and Jefferson. Because Bush sat this country back 100 years with his continual abuse of power and assaults on freedom and privacy”

      What was President Bush’s assault on freedom please name that event?” Are you referring to him holding ununiformed terrorist killers at GITMO? What attack on privacy because he brought the legal system into the twenty first century to be able to deal with throw away cell phones and computers buy allowing a judge to grant a warrant for wire taps on an individual and not having to seek the same on every phone and computer a terrorist uses rendering an investigation impossible even though the law enforcement agency still had to appear before a judge and show probable cause with in the mandated period of time required by FISA?
      Or is it because the NSA could intercept calls from known terrorist cells to people here in the United States which the NY Times reported aiding and abetting the killers you do not know what an abuse of power is. You cannot tell the difference between reasonable and minimal actions compared to other war time Presidents to protect the country after the worst attack in its history. Now trying to take control of everyone’s health care, and the passage of hate crimes laws which is one step away from prosecuting people for what they may or may not have been thinking. Enlisting your union thug accomplices to aid in the take over of the private sector and to do away with a secret ballot or ACORN registering the dead and cartoon characters to vote or firing people that are the CEO of a private corporation or the appointment of un vetted czars lacking oversight now that is an abuse of power and guess what it is failing because people are becoming aware.

      4. “Obama didn’t have the facts about the shootings yet. To comment on the tragedy would have been as ridiculous and illogical as the accusations being tossed around on here. When you’re in a position of power (and I don’t know if any of you here are though I highly doubt it seeing your knee-jerk reactions) you wait until you have all the facts, THEN you speak about it. At the time when Obama spoke, there was no reason to assume
      this was anything other than what we see every day in America: Someone who went nuts and started shooting people.
      Was Columbine terrorism? No? I didn’t think so.
      Every time someone picks up a gun and starts shooting (IE: Yesterday in Florida) it ISN’T terrorism, no matter how badly you are clamoring for it to be. Sometimes it’s just a pissed off, crazy person”
      First do you presume that Bush had all the facts on that horrific day? Yet his measured and reasonable actions were viciously maligned by the left.
      Second this is what we see every day in America? Excuse me did the shooter in Florida or Columbine start there rampage by invoking Allah Snackbar? I am more than sure there are people commenting here that have been in positions of power. I seriously doubt you are or ever will be given your failure to grasp these details.

      “Every since Cheney and the DHS stripped you of your freedom and feelings of security, you’ve been jumping under tables every time a car backfires and collecting duct tape. It’s time to come up out of your spider holes and realize that the world has violence in it. Always has and always will. You cannot, no matter how badly you want to justify it, refer to every killing as terrorism, ESPECIALLY when it’s on an army base where people have immediate access to guns”

      No one that I have seen commenting on this blog has referred to every killing as terrorism or any blog I have read just those that fit the profile like this one. Also your comment “ESPECIALLY when it’s on an army base where people have immediate access to guns” reveals your ignorance about the military and an army post for sure there is no immediate access to guns they are locked up in the arms room of each individual company if they had to wait till weapons were issued to a company or platoon there would have been a lot more dead and wounded so you need to know what you are talking about before you show how little you know. You see that is one of those positions of power things. Also Obama new when he spoke that there were many dead and wounded men and women that in all probability had already sacrificed and suffered a lot serving this country and that mean you and me.
      “No offense but really….you people are NOT the ones best educated to talk about sanity vs. insanity or rational vs. irrational. You begged to be stripped of your rights and privacy during the Patriot Act so the government would ‘protect’ you and now you want them back because you decided it’s not the governments role to protect you and care for you and do all the things you need done The truth cannot adjust itself to justify your opinions. Sorry. That’s just reality”
      I am truly sorry but you are unfit to judge a hotdog eating contest. Forgive me if I am not impressed by your education your failure to understand basic facts regarding the upgrading of legal procedures to facilitate our defense and investigations that violated no ones rights and your lack of knowledge to understand how the military works in regard to weapons and how they are stored and all the other ignorance you displayed makes your above comment in all probability the dumbest ever.

      • donnamarie permalink
        November 8, 2009 4:02 pm

        Great response!!!!!

  12. November 7, 2009 10:49 am

    Some of the issues that are the base cause of the wars the United States is involved in are exposed by this shooting.

    1) Loyalty to Islam over ANY government. (Islam is designed as a nation-state)
    2) Seperation of church and state.
    3) World wide moral obligation to kill the ‘occupiers’ of Muslim land.
    4) Jihad: “For most of the fourteen hundred years of Islamic history, the most common interpretation of Jihad has been ARMED struggle for the advancement and defense of Muslim power.” (B. Lewis)

    A number of additional reasons that historically have triggered wars are present, although they are as obivious from this particular ‘incident’.

    This is NOT irrational. I have studied warfare for more than 40 years and I cannot think of ANY war that had this many GOOD reasons for people to kill each other. This war can only become larger (Interruped only by truces) until these issues are resolved by the termination of political Islam.

  13. November 7, 2009 10:52 am

    Please note I missed a word when editing.

    A number of additional reasons that historically have triggered wars are present, although they are NOT as obivious from this particular ‘incident’.

  14. ledball permalink
    November 7, 2009 11:03 am

    Christopher;
    Suppose you tell us all, item by item what President Bush did to”dismantle” this country.

    Because some one likes gun they are not well educated???? What bearing does collecting guns have on education or anything else? Becuase a person collects guns he is a killer??? Using your logic, one could say that the government should take away my car because I’m going to speed or run someone down.
    I know aleast 100 gun owners. I do not know one that has comitted a violent act with a firearm.
    I know four people of that same group who have killed or injured someone with their motorvehicles.
    So “0 out of 100” gun ownwers committed violence and “4 out of 100” car owners committed violence.
    Don’t ya just love statistics!!
    You might want to read the Patriot Act before you condem it.
    If Obama did not have the news about Ft Hood when he went on the air, his whole team as incompetent as he is. Or could it have been a teleprompter problem?????

    • alfonzo permalink
      November 7, 2009 9:03 pm

      the dismantling of this country would begin with the Axis of Evil speech…then the Patriot Act, which really omits ammendments 5,6,&7…also Torture…helped to dismantle this country….then his contribution of 5 trillion dollars to the National Debt…what happened to his brilliant idea of puting our Social Security into the Market?…how about a war against Iraq—which really weakened our position against Iran…..and a war against Afghanistan….when the culprits of 911 were 95%Saudi and 5% Egyptian….need more?

      • Edward permalink
        November 8, 2009 5:44 am

        Yeah, you need more…like get an education and look at history. And by the way, you are typical liberal that always goes after Bush. I’m surprise you have not blamed him for the FT HOOD Incident. I guess you also blame him for been unable to get the facts straight. There IS an Axis of Evil and by the way, and I don’t have time to educate you on this, the market problems we had were caused by laws put into place by Clinton in which loans had to be made to those that could not really afford to get homes, from there it began a long series of issues that the Republicans attempted to correct, Barney Frank opposed any of these corrections like a bitch in heat at a male strip club. If we can then start pointing fingers then let’s do so. OBONGO (Sorry Obama) pushed with vigor the idea that if we don’t start bailing out the banks unemployment will soar to 8%….funny I think it’s up to 10+ and rising……anyhow, I need to go to work so that I can pay more taxes to keep our awful public schools open so that they can keep putting people out linto the world that believe in the socialist crap that this administration is pushing on us…you know it but you dare not speak against this idiot of a president…

        • alfonzo permalink
          November 8, 2009 9:16 am

          Since the Question was How has Bush dismantled this country? wouldn’t it be correct to discuss Bush?…and just like the right , you throw out statements regarding my knowledge of history, but you don’t refute any of my specific statements….I didn’t even mention the markets…I mentioned W’s contribution to the national debt….but if we are gonna discuss markets…the dow market is up 50% since march.(10,bama0bama0bama0bama). I suppose this is in spite of a Democratic Congress…and a Democratic President……it was problably from policies set up by Bush Sr…riddle me this— if W had a GOP congress and he was a GOP Pres…why couldn’t he fix the suppopsed problem caused by Bill Clinton(who owned the greatest economy we ever had..by any measurment)?…..at least the freefall of unemployment which began with the last administration has slowed down…the bailout of the banks (Tarp) was a W thing… at least bailout money without stipulations on paying it back was…it was free $,…… at least Obama has laid down rules on how the bailouts are gonna be paid back(and some has been paid back)…and speaking of Socialism:…how about W’s little social network at the Land Managment…that is suppose to provide the U.S. with a third of its revenue, that is unless you let your buddies…drill for free!and finally…I guess you are blaming your lack of education, on our awful public school system….education is what you put into it…Obama tried to tell you that in his speech to the children!!!…

          • Stina permalink
            November 9, 2009 8:01 am

            ok, so I didn’t even read farther in your rant than the part about “W’s contribution to the national debt”. That was enough. Let’s chat for a moment about Obama’s contribution in the ONE YEAR he’s been in office. Look at all the government has funded in the last year. Bailing out banks, car dealerships, the cash for clunkers program, the $8000 housing reimbursment, etc. It’s “great” that they’re making everyone using these programs dependent on the government (which by the way is one of the main concepts of the democratic party in my opinion), however, the money has to come from somewhere. Where’s it coming from? I haven’t heard anyone discuss this, but I’d like to know how you think that spending all this money is helping the national deficit.

            • alfonzo permalink
              November 9, 2009 9:18 am

              spending it here helps more than spending it in Iraq….but when are you going to give credit for the dow going up to 10,000,000?…….that is an additional wealth gain to the AMERICAN people …including retirees…of 5 TRILLION DOLLARS…or 1/3 of our gdp…..and yes Obama has spent about 1.3T so far…not a good pace, but it is hard to stomach….gop complaining about spending …when— not only did W contribute 5 trillion but..with his daddy and Reagan the National debt contribution by Gop Presidents was 9.4 of the 10.7 trillon dollar debt as of 1-20-9….the figures here came from U.S. Gov .org …by the way….some of the money will come from the newly revamped land management thast contributes 1/3 of our revenue…yes, some will come from taxes…which i would rather spend on Americans rather than killing Iraqis…..

              • Stina permalink
                November 10, 2009 7:59 am

                They may be 9.4 trillion, but that was over the course of how many years. My main concern is how much he’s spent in ONE YEAR!

        • alfonzo permalink
          November 8, 2009 10:26 am

          oh, and there is(was) an Axis, I believe it consisted of Germany, Italy, and Japan….

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 8, 2009 7:03 am

        alfonzo
        Try taking up bingo or eating a red chili burrito you will get more out of it. Godalmighty where do they come from?

        • alfonzo permalink
          November 8, 2009 9:20 am

          Mexico City…so the red chilli burrito reference was dead on…actually, I prefer green chilli….and bingo is no challenge …I do like sudoku….

        • alfonzo permalink
          November 8, 2009 11:39 am

          Jack,
          Like Edward, you don’t refute any of my specific facts?…such as: the Dow is at 10,000, such as: W contributed 5 trillion to our national debt, such as: we went to Iraq as a response to 911(hj res 114), though we were attacked by Saudis, who’s King holds hands with W…..such as: the Patriot Act’s disrespects ammendments 5-7….such as: the fact that it was W …who handed out Tarp….all you could muster up is a really lame bingo/burrito joke reference?…Godalmighty(if there is an almighty) where do you come from?

  15. ledball permalink
    November 7, 2009 11:06 am

    One more thing Christopher. What is the defin. of a Terrorist????

  16. November 7, 2009 12:23 pm

    President Obama’s contempt for our military was completely revealed in his response to the Ft. Hood shootings. On top of his bizarre prioritizing of the conference ahead of the tragedy, he manages to clumsily slap the military along the way when he said,

    I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow was around. So I want to give a shout out to that Congressional Medal of Honor winner.

    Medicine Crow was awarded the Medal of Freedom not the Medal of Honor. You’d think Obama would know that since he personally awarded it to Crow in August.

    Someone who doesn’t know the difference between our nations top military and our top civilian honors has no business as our Commander in Chief.

  17. Ricox permalink
    November 7, 2009 6:15 pm

    Bush prioritizes “not scaring” 20 children ahead of responding to a still-occurring attack against United States civilians in which actual children are actually dying, and he is doing the right thing.

    Obama nods to the event he’s actually at ahead of discussing an attack inside a military base (which has been thwarted) which will dominate the rest of his statement — and he’s showing contempt for the military.

    Would it have been more respectful to the military to end his statement about the attack and then talk about the conference for two minutes?

    Or should he have ignored the audience gathered to hear him speak?

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 8, 2009 7:08 am

      Ricox
      At that moment Bush was only aware that a plane had hit the Trade Center. Stopping and scaring and tramatizing the children could have prevented nothing he was there for just a few minutes. Remember the old adage about the hole and the shovel. But by all means keep digging.

      • Ricox permalink
        November 8, 2009 9:45 am

        President George W. Bush listens as White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card informs him of a second plane hitting the World Trade Center while Bush was conducting a reading seminar at the Emma E. Booker Elementary School, in Sarasota, Fla., on Sept. 11,2001.

        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32782623/ns/us_news-911_eight_years_later/

      • Ricox permalink
        November 8, 2009 9:48 am

        (excerpted from interview with Andy Card)

        When you entered that classroom to inform the president about the attacks, what exactly were your feelings, as a human being, not only as chief of staff?

        We arrived in Florida the night before after participating in an arrival ceremony for the prime minister of Australia in Washington, D.C. We arrived in this resort in Sarasota. And when we arrived, there was this terrible stench in the air, and that was because the fish had died and washed up on the beach — because of red tide — and it stunk. …

        When I got up in the morning, I was worried about the stench more than I was worried about almost anything else. I knew the president was going to go for a run, a pretty serious run, in the morning and I didn’t know if he’d feel sick or not. So I talked to the president’s physician about whether the president would be sick and he said, “Oh no, he’d be fine.” And I went in and saw the president and said, “It stinks out there, but the doctor says you’ll be fine. When you get back, we’ll do our intelligence briefing and it will be an easy day.”

        He went to his run and came back and we had our intelligence briefing and loaded into limousines and went over to the school. There was a buzz as we were getting to the school. Some people said, “Anybody hear about the plane crash in New York City?” but still not a lot of information. And the president, the principal of the school and I were standing at the door when one of the staffers for the National Security Council came up and said, “Sir, it appears there’s been a small twin-engine plane crashed into one of the World Trade Center towers in New York City.” And the reaction, kind of unspoken, was “Oh, it’s a horrible accident. The pilot must have had a heart attack or something.” And the principal then opened the door of the classroom and escorted the president in and the door shut.

        Then that staffer came back to me and said, “Sir, it looks like it wasn’t a small twin-engine plane, it was a commercial jetliner. My mind flashed (pauses) and I can’t explain why, but my mind flashed to the fear that must have been experienced by the passengers on the plane. I just thought “Gee, they must have known the plane is going up, it must have been a horrible experience.” I still thought, I guess, that it could have been an accident, a mechanical failure or something.

        And then — it seems like a nanosecond later — that staffer came to me and said, “Oh my gosh” — he used another word — and said another plane hit the other tower at the World Trade Center. And I knew that it was not an accident, and it couldn’t have been a coincidence.

        My mind focused on the al-Qaida network, because I knew that they had attacked the World Trade Center before. I don’t know why I thought that but I did and I just presumed that it was an Osama bin Laden or and al-Qaida attack, and I knew I had to tell the president.

        I wrestled with that. You know, one of the tough jobs for the chief of staff is to try to decide what to tell the president needs to know. This was relatively easy — yes, the president needs to know. But what do I tell him?

        I made the decision that I would pass on two facts, make one editorial comment and do nothing to invite a question or start a dialogue.

        I opened the door to the classroom and the press pool was gathered at the back of the classroom. I walked up to the president and leaned over and whispered into his right ear: “A second plane” — I was very very succinct, very purposeful with my diction — “A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack.” And I stood back from the president so that he couldn’t ask me a question and then I inched my way back to the door. I was all business. I was all business.

        • Jack Hampton permalink
          November 8, 2009 11:04 pm

          Rimcox
          Bushs response was still correct he did the right thing again jumping up and alarming and unsettling the children would have accomplished nothing. I do not believe you and those that criticize Bush for his reaction have dealt with very many emergency situations.

    • In the Know permalink
      November 9, 2009 3:14 pm

      Sorry…you are factually challenged. Chronologically, the shooting occurred and big “O” was informed in transit to his conference. His statement was prepared in advance. He was “shooting from the hip” (too early?), after the teleprompter ran away, with the whole “shout out” business. I’m sure Mr. Axelrod had a few choice words in the wings when he realized the Manchurian Candidate was attempting to assert his independence from his handlers once again. If the eyes are the windows to the soul, Mr “O”‘s unscripted public orations are most likely the front door.

  18. IceStar permalink
    November 8, 2009 1:16 am

    BO couldn’t lead a troop of Girl Scouts and somehow he is the Commander in Chief.

    He was raised a Muslim, bowed to the Saudi king, gave a surrender speech in Cairo, has co sponsored a resolution banning free speech in the UN with Egypt, ignores the plight of Copts, Christians in Pakistan,Israel…

    Someone wake me from this nightmare.

    • Ricox permalink
      November 8, 2009 9:54 am

      Poke, poke, IceStar. Wake up.

    • alfonzo permalink
      November 8, 2009 10:42 am

      bowed to saudi king…who was holding his lovely , delicate, manicured hands..on a field trip at the ranch?

      • Ricox permalink
        November 8, 2009 11:11 am

        Chronology of US-Saudi relations from the Saudi Embassy, via google docs:

        http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache%3ANADNYjNTekYJ%3Awww.saudiembassy.net%2Ffiles%2FPDF%2FReports%2FSaudi-US-chronology-08.pdf+bush+and+king+saud&hl=en&gl=us

      • Jack Hampton permalink
        November 8, 2009 11:09 pm

        Alfonso
        Bush did not bow to any king Obama bent over so far it looked like he was doing something unseemly to him. This is how serious I take your comments as far as response to facts you have not given any. Try the red bean burrito.

        • alfonzo permalink
          November 9, 2009 9:27 am

          no W held his pretty hand…you have no good responses…and when you get beat…with your own false info…(like when you where debating ricox)…you respond with “Bush’s response was still right”….even though you first presented us inacurate info……..I don’t really care about the initial response…you may be alluding to something kinda right…what would most people do during such an emergency?…My gripe is the long term reaction to 911…and that is to go into Iraq….if I can’t “prove” it with the wording of the Iraq war resolution….is it proof enough that during the Iraq war…we used 90% of our military resource spending… there and the rest in Afgh…where the propriotors of the catastrophe were hiding….

        • alfonzo permalink
          November 9, 2009 9:31 am

          I’ll just stoop to your level….have your mother….eat a red burrito….

        • Edward permalink
          November 9, 2009 11:33 am

          Don’t worry Jack, Ricox, etc…. Alfonso and other Obongonites, I mean Obamanites will surely blame this late season Hurricane on Bush and his Iraq War and also, the fact that Obongo did not get the Olympics will probably prompt and investigation into how Bush may have affected this via the Iraq War. And….I’m sure that the speech at Ft Hood will be blame on Bush somehow, just wait long enough…………Did I mentioned that Hassan had visited the White House as part of a task force put together by Obama???? That, was also Bush’s fault………… or that if we don’t pass this massive bail out bill unemployment will reach 8%, it’s 10+%…Yeap, this is also Bush’s fault…..ACORN”s troubles: Bush’s fault.
          That Obama IS A COMMUNIST AND SOCIALIST AND IT’S DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN TO UN-MANTLE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE US, its’ people like these bozo’s (not mentioning your name here liberals or left democrats) their fault. IDIOTS never stop to ask this COMMUNITY ORGANIZER what he meant by CHANGE. Now you know, Liberals, how’s that CHANGE working out for you?? Got to go, generate taxes to give to the REMORAS among us…..

          • alfonzo permalink
            November 9, 2009 5:02 pm

            again a comment that I am blaming everything on W…Was not the question? How W dismantled this country?….so therefore an appropriate answer would be..things that Bush did in the past to dismantle this country?…..the burrito comment…was in response to the idiotic response by your friend jack…the bailout (tarp was under W)….the 90% of resources was this: during W’s tenure we spent 10 times as much in Iraq , as we did in Afghanistan…or approximately 90% of our outgoing “war” funds…It is all muddled though— W didn’t put the cost in the books and he doesn’t know how much his war cost……..I recall that W didn’t think the war would be 50 billion dollars…….No one blamed W for Katrina…like you allude to, WE BLAMED him for his response….and finally I guess it is not a fact that since March, the Dow is up 50% …adding 5 trillion dollars of wealth…was this in spite of Obama and the Democratic congress…was this because of the GOP? and you were right …it’s not fair to make comments about someone you don’t know…I would and can live with my mother ..because she is the most important person in my life..Si , eres Latino?..usted comprende…I don’t need to look for a job…but i guess if we are gonna go bragalicious(spanish&Portugese)…I do just fine for myself…and…didn’t “qualify” for the Govt cheese rebate that W used to further spend into our National DEbt…and you can continue to deny…that iraq war is a mistake…and you can deny that it was sold to the american people as response to 911…(the vote to go to war…or the Iraq War REsolution,,,mentions 911 three times)and you can deny that this country didn’t come bankrupt….you can even deny that the market is up…..we’ll just keep denying…you any more victories during Presidential races…

            • Jack Hampton permalink
              November 10, 2009 3:42 am

              Alfonzo
              So you got the red chili burrito rebate? Have a nice day lolol

          • alfonzo permalink
            November 9, 2009 5:10 pm

            also… I think Ricox…would fall under your term “Obamanite”, but not your buddy Jack….

          • Jack Hampton permalink
            November 10, 2009 3:16 am

            Edward
            If you stop and think what has the ACORN nut reallgot nothing not even the Olympics maybe he can award himself a medal of freedom and then call it a Medal of Honor. LOLol what a boob. Take his littleteleprompter away and you might as well have Curly Larry or Moe. cracks me up. Sent the dream team after the Olympics and do not even get a lousey T shirt. All we have to do is hang on till 2010 and keep feeding the 3 stooges here the red chili burrito.

      • Edward permalink
        November 9, 2009 11:22 am

        ALFONSO, HEAR THIS: Bush is no longer the president and look at your facts, they are all over the board, and the talking points of liberals is peppering your comments which is why they are mixed with half-facts and mostly emotional outbursts and then Bush this, The Iraq War. And by the way, I don’t know where you come from but mentioning “mother” in the same sentence as “burrito” tells me you probably still live at home, but that’s just an opinion and I’m sure it’s not right, I’m sure. Not a fair thing to say, I know. By the way, not sure where you got the “We use 90% of our military resources of our military”…this comments tell me that 90% of your facts are probably wrong. Give me a link that shows this, even if it’s from Saturday Night Live or MoveOn or even Acorn, but just show me one, just one link to back this up…….

        So, Alfonso, I know that you have better things to do like trying to get a job, but I read all the rants and basically let’s do a quick recap of all of this:

        Somehow, the Ft Hood disaster, according to Bush haters and the invaluable CNN and others that love Obongo, I mean Obama, has almost everything to do with Bush, (Anyone can chime in on this) Amazing, let’s look at this today:

        SOME QUICK FACTS: (FROM TODAY not back in the bad old days of Bush)…

        Ft Hood, A terrorist attack, Obongo, …I mean Obama orders the FBI not to investigate this as a TERRORIST attack, Napolitano is over at the United Arab Emirates (This past Sunday) telling people there that she and her Obongo administration will form a task group to prevent a BackLash to Muslins (Who generally believe that Infidels are enemies of Islam…) The Ft Hood terrorist has links to Al-qaeda (They .FBI, even admitted they had their eyes on him and were aware of this yet, they have been forced to treat this differently, Obongo, I mean Obama, had this Hassan dude part of a task force that has visited the White House (Within the trime-frame of the FBI claims that they knew something and..NOW PAY ATTENTION ALFONSO (I CAN EXPLAIN THIS IS SPANISH OR PORTUGUESE as well) Hassan, the Ft Hood Terrorist hung out a the same mosque, at the same time that two of the 9/11 terrorist attended, and rumor has it that Hassan had visited the same strip clubs as the 9/11 highjackers….yet this president, not BUSH, He (Listen carefully..and I know this is hard to believe, is no longer the president, it’s Obongo…I mean Obama. Hence, here we are)
        invited this dude Hassan as part of some meetings…maybe Obama gave Hassan the orders to carry this attack to distract all from the sneaky passage of the wonderful Health-Ness Bill that I’m pretty sure YOU think you deserve and believe it’s a good thing for the US (Another topic that I’m sure you will rant that it’s BUSH”s fault too)…

        OBAMA’s SPEECH>FT HOOD

        Obama treated the Ft Hood incident as if nothing really happen, BUSH that other evil monger, has already visited Ft Hood and the hospital and even some families of the, Oh Alfonso, Listen carefully again…some of the families of Ft Hood victims which has become the worst terrorist act against a military facility in recorded History. But don’t worry, Obongo (Obama) will surely be attending the ceremony in which he takes home an award that even he said he didn’t really deserved….really. Anyhow, rant away….I think that on that day we had two attacks:
        1-Hassan with a gun(s)
        2-Obama wit his detachment and loathing for our military.

        Again, let’s go back to the reason we are all here. Obama’s reaction to Ft Hood was horrifically unfit for any president even if it’s a dude that was a community organizer for ACORN….Oh my gosh, another illustrious Obama gig…. Anyhow, I’ll check up in a few days and see reams and reams of ranting. Take aspirin, it keep the pressure blood down.

  19. ledball permalink
    November 8, 2009 6:39 am

    I know I’m howling at a gale, but one more time. The war in Iraq: presidents don’t just arbitrarily wander off and start wars on a whim. Pres. Bush was informed by MI6-CIA-Israeli and several other intel agencies, that Saddam was in possession of weapons of mass destruction! He had used them ( chemical) in the the Iraq/ Iran war! He said he still had them and a delivery system capable of hitting Israel, which he also said he would do.

    Torture: Nothing that we did to them, that we did not do to ourselves. Sleep deprevation, what college student has not experienced it? Water boarding, yes its nasty,scarey, but it has no lasting effects. We told some of them that we would go beat up their mommys and daddys if they did not give us certain information. Cold room, they were closely monitored and removed long before they were in and real danger. Only a small handful of these nice young men ever faced enhanced interogation. How many allied troops died brutal, painful terrifying
    deaths at the hand of those peace loving people. Islam has been at war with non- muslims for centuries simply because we were not muslim. Not because we are stealing their oil ( ask the sheiks how ripped off they feel, one of the shieks gives each of his relatives a Merc SL every year) Or for any other reason, just because we are!!!
    Allright, I’ll go thake my meds now.

  20. Paul Cooper permalink
    November 8, 2009 11:52 am

    I think Obama’s reaction is not all his fault-but it was a major fault. How anyone can think that wasn’t a huge error politically and when it comes to leadership is beyond me. His fans should be mad at the Presidents advisers The President has surrounded himself with a lot of smart people – but they screwed up. They should have made sure he was ready to immediately address this historic act of terror against our troops.

    • Ricox permalink
      November 8, 2009 2:09 pm

      I think it was more important to act to shut down all military bases worldwide — which is what they did — than to make a public address. “Huge error politically” is irrelevant. What is done to save lives is relevant — and a systemwide lockdown is more important than a speech.

      Paul, you are elevating the symbolism above the actual actions. It doesn’t make any sense.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 8, 2009 11:14 pm

      Paul
      I do not believe they are really all that smart. Everything they have launched into has been pretty much a flop. The health care debacle, crap and trade, Cash for clunkers, Cash for grass, cash for union thugs, goes on and on.

  21. Steve R permalink
    November 8, 2009 1:03 pm

    Even giving Obama the benefit of the doubt here, as I understand it something like several hours had passed between the time of the shootings and his remarks at the close of the conference. In an era of instant communication, when something happens on a U.S. military installation the Commander in Chief has the right, the duty, to be told or to find out just what the hell is going on. Some statement should have come from the White House — if not Obama personally — long before that abortive news conference. And I’m gonna say here that the difference between our no-class chief executive and his predecessor became pretty obvious when he learned that “W” and his wife had very quietly gone to Ft. Hood to be with the troops, to show support for the families, and to see if there was anything they needed that he could shake lose. It was almost a day later before the MSM even knew that he’d been there. Obonehead, on the other hand, not only trivialized the murders at his “news conference,” he never made one move as far as I can tell to go to Ft. Hood. Oh, yes — he did order flags on federal buildings lowered to half mast. Nice gesture, that. Thanks, Barack.

  22. Steve R permalink
    November 8, 2009 1:15 pm

    Oh, and as far as public reaction goes, even Obama’s “home town,” Chicago — not the one in Kenya — pretty much didn’t like his performance either. The NBC affiliate — nbc5 — there ran an informal poll on its website which showed 87 percent were “furious” — the word the station used — about Obama’s stumblebum performance at the news conference.

  23. Ricox permalink
    November 8, 2009 2:05 pm

    9/11/01. Attacks begin 8:37 am. Bush speaks at 8:30 PM — 12 hours later — once it was clear what had happened — and that the attacks had, at least for the moment, ended: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/bush.speech.text/index.html

    11/5/09. Shooting at Ft. Hood begins 1:30 PM Central time, 2:30 pm Eastern.
    Obama speaks at 5:03 pm Eastern — 2.5 hours later, once it is reasonably clear what has happened; that it is an isolated incident; that the attack has ended; what the condition of the attacker and victims appear to be.

    You’re arguing, what, that he should have made a big speech before it was clear what was actually happening, what had actually happened?

    Had this been analogous to 9/11, the last thing Obama should have been doing is speaking before the smoke had cleared.

    However, if you follow this analogy, Bush should have given a press conference at the school in Florida — before he had any idea what was going on.

    It is illogical.

    Were these two situations analogous, Obama would have been mid-speech when Rahm Emanuel came in, interrupted the speech, and whispered in his ear that America was under attack — then Obama would have continued his speech; finished his speech; been whisked onto an airplane and flown around the country for ten hours while Joe Biden coordinated the response — then finally addressed the nation from the White House at 2:30 am, 12 hours later.

    But they are not analogous

  24. Len Powder permalink
    November 8, 2009 11:39 pm

    Major Hasan was a victim of his religion, not of the US military. All jihadists are victims of the Muslim religion. They are psychologically unstable. How else can you describe their behavior? Honor killings, suicide bombings, road side bombs, bombs planted in a market intented to kill everyone shopping there, flying planes into buildings occupied by thousands of people, etc., etc.

    Is anyone out there capable or justifying such human carnage? Of course! They are the very insane jihadists who perpetrate these despicable crimes. They can, and do, justify their atrocities every single day. They freely admit why they want to destroy infidels and their culture but our PC culture and media don’t accept their explanation. We need to rationalize and justify their thirst for blood as the result of their victimhood. Come on people, let’s start using the brain God gave us to discern facts from spin! Major Hasan was a Jihadist, plain and simple. Why let the MSM and Obama obfuscate the matter?

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 9, 2009 3:13 am

      Len Powder
      Very good comment

  25. M.A. permalink
    November 9, 2009 6:56 am

    Len Powder
    Jihadists are not victims of anything. They know what they are doing and why, they willingly do it. To portray them as being, in any way, “victims” is a mistake.

  26. Stina permalink
    November 9, 2009 8:11 am

    Even if Obama didn’t have all the information about the attacks, would it have been that difficult to say “we need to express deep sorrow for the losses these families have had today and keep them in our thoughts and prayers”? Or at least talk without saying “um” twice in the first few seconds. I haven’t heard Obama say “um” twice ever, and now he says it in the middle of a shout out while US military personnel families are beginning their grieving?!? Good grief!

  27. Larry D. Crumbley permalink
    November 10, 2009 10:19 am

    Hello,
    He-(OBAMA)-is a complete moron. I am so disgusted with how he handled the situation at Ft. Hood I can just about scream, and I already did some of that. I am Half Cherokee and it is nice when a “REAL” American did some acknowledgment but this is so ridiculous. This borders on “STU PITY”. Somebody tell me differently okay. Rush Limbaugh has called him the MAN-CHILD, and that is exactly how he has acted ever since he got into the White-House. May God Almighty please help this nation once again.

    Thanks,
    Larry D. Crumbley

  28. R Jackson permalink
    November 10, 2009 3:47 pm

    I am not convinced that the Fort Hood killings were not the work of terrorists organizations such as those we have been fighting. The leadership of our country is either burying its head in the sand or is ignorant of the way these people think. They have been fighting and sacrificing themselves for the cause of jihad for thousands of years. They do not value their lives as we do in the western world. To allow someone with this type of thinking to be an officer in the U.S. military is absurd and the folks who allowed it should be held responsible. We have come so far since WWII when Japanese americans were penned and quarantined. I am not indicating we go to that extreme but I do think someone openly sympathizing with our enemy should be tried and incarcerated instead of being promoted. Could it be we have militant muslim sympathizers in the highest places in our government because our leaders are ignorant of a new stragedy? Think on these things.

    • Jack Hampton permalink
      November 11, 2009 4:12 am

      Yea think BHO?

  29. Rain permalink
    November 12, 2009 6:24 pm

    Obama makes me sick. Completely unpresidential. As a veteran, I can only imagine what our men and women are feeling having to acknowledge him as their Commander in Chief. Wake UP, AMERICA!

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