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Giuliani on Cavuto on Civilian Trial: Unbelievable Incompetence. Invites A Terrorist Attack.

November 13, 2009


On Cavuto this evening, Rudy Giuliani underscored the obvious. We tried prosecuting terrorists as criminals after the first World Trade Center attack in 1993. It got us the second attack. What is it that the Obama doesn’t understand about the word “war?” How can he wish to inflict this nightmare on the families of 9/11 and the City of New York? Senator Sestack on Fox this morning was absolutely pathetic, meandering on about how we need to defend our “ideals” and therefore try terrorists as though they were American citizens gone wild. No we don’t. Foreigners who hate us so much they are willing to kill tens of thousands of indiscriminately at a clip need to be tried as enemies of our country not as ordinary perps. This decision coming on the heels of the collective blindness of Democrats and so-called liberals to the obvious fact that Major Hasan’s atrocity was an act of war sends a message to the rest of us that is both ugly and alarming: 0ur commander in chief and his lieutenants at Justice and Homeland Security present a danger to all of us unlike any we have ever faced from domestic sources. The days ahead are uncharted and will not be pretty.

  1. F. Swemson permalink
    November 13, 2009 4:27 pm

    Bravo !

    If we can’t stop these looters soon, at what point do you feel that the American public would be morally and legally entitled to begin fighting this government with more than just words?

    I believe that we were the victims of a bloodless communist coup last November, however I’m afraid that the task of taking our country back will not be accomplished in a bloodless manner.

  2. RobInCanada permalink
    November 13, 2009 4:39 pm

    Obama & Holder are planning on giving America a big screwing. This is what they have learned and this is another act in destroying America & freedom. America’s enemies are smiling.

    The trail is like this:

    on a gazillion times more diabolical.

  3. F. Swemson permalink
    November 13, 2009 7:45 pm

    I just watched the show form my DVR, and was a bit upset by something that Rudi said.

    Towards the end of the segment when Cavuto asked him whether he thought that Eric Holder cared about the issues that Rudi was standing up for.. (you know.. little stuff, like the law, and his duty to keep Americans safe), Rudi, who was a successful prosecutor, immediately answered “Sure, he does, I know Eric Holder, he’s a good man” or words to that effect…

    How can an honest & rational former prosecutor like Rudi say that Holder, who’s been actively complicit in Obama’s systematic dismantling of the American Constitution, is “a good man”?

    Holder’s actions thus far have proved that he has virtually no respect for the laws and traditions of our republic. He proved that loud & clear when he dropped charges against the black panthers against whom prosecutors had a MADE case… He proved it when he didn’t stand up and resign in protest against Obama’s unconstitutional actions in relation to the take over of the auto industry, when he confiscated private property and simply gave it to his pals in the unions.

    Was Rudi just doing the normal thing that lawyers do to protect all of their fellow members of the guild, that believes that “justice” is spelled “Just-Us”.

    I’m disappointed in Rudi. If he’s really who we think he is, then when asked the question about Holder, he should have said that Holder deserved to be disbarred and prosecuted for his numerous violations of his oath of office.

  4. John Davidson permalink
    November 13, 2009 9:01 pm

    Swemson, you picked up on that. It’s the political game, sir. They’re all buddies and get to sit in the first row.

    The one thing you always note regarding these politicians is that under certain public circumstances, the rail against each other, but behind closed door, it is business as usual.
    The only outrage is directed towards the microphone, nothing done behind closed doors in Congress comes out without suspicious strings attached which ultimately we find out later borders on criminal activities. They do not know how take action without accepting input from corporate lobbyist whose interest superceed that of the populous. Lobbying is bribery made legal by legislative action the way I see it. At the moment, the American people have no say in what is going on and to prove that point, no longer do the polls have any effect of their decisions, either..

    We have evolved into a dictatorship, nothing more; nothing less. We all are being robbed blind and taxed so many differesnt ways. It is remarkable that theyeven have the gaul to wave the legal righteousness flag in our faces.

    If the alligations put forth in Dick Morris’ book are half true, a normal citizen would be on trial way before admitted terrorists living the life of Riley on a beach in Cuba costing taxpayers millions of dollars. This inaction persist in our government. After eight years, they come up with the idea to have a circus in New York City. The worlds a stage and these idiots surely can’t act responsibly. Next thing we’ll find out they’re going to rent Madison Square Garden and charge admission.

    There just isn’t an once of dignity left in Washington!

    • F. Swemson permalink
      November 13, 2009 9:49 pm


      I only take issue with one part of what you just said.

      They do not know how take action without accepting input from corporate lobbyist whose interest superceed that of the populous.

      You parrot the leftist mantra by equating anything “corporate” with greed or evil.

      All productive entities are targets of the far left, because that’s where the money is, and there’s no easier way to excite the mob than by saying that rich corporations are their real oppressors.

      The disgusting ways in which our government feeds on those who produce jobs and wealth, while claiming that they’re the true friend of the populace, is the central lie of all leftist political ideologies.

      Corporations in America are vilified by those professing to protect our rights and our economic well being, and treated so unfairly, it’s as if the politicians don’t even care that they’re eating the seed corn.

      In such an anti-business atmosphere, corporations do what they have to do to survive and produce a profit for their shareholders.

      It’s true of course that some big shot executives are crooked and evil. Scum like Jeffrey Imelt at GE, and Ken Ley from ENRON, are all too common in the business world. Many of them however are lured into dishonest behavior by government officials who promise them favors in exchange for huge campaign contributions.

      The two most reviled industries that the far left has demonized, oil companies and medical insurance companies actually work on very small margins. The oil industry makes roughly 4% on revenues. Soft drink manufacturers and junk food chains make a far bigger % of revenues than they do. I don’t know what % of corporate executives are crooked, but I’ll bet that it’s well under 10%, and probably under 5%.. That’s a lot of crooks to be sure.

      But it pales in comparison to the evidence that indicates that the vast majority of all politicians are criminals themselves.

      • Tom March permalink
        November 14, 2009 5:21 am


        I couldn’t agree more with that. It also concerns the right to petition your government.

        Lobbyists represent business or business associations who have as much right to petition their government as any individual. Congress enacts legislation that quite often directly impacts business and many times could harm the legitimate earning of profits. Sometimes legislation is designed to give one business, or group of businesses, advantage over others and those businesses have the right to lobby congress for redress of their grievances.

        Cap and trade is an example of legislation that could and would harm many businesses, especially small businesses, and to have this burden placed on them without any means of bringing this to the attention of congress is dictatorial tyranny.

        This a way the left demonizes corporations to isolate them in the name of “the people” and destroy capitalism.

        • John Davidson permalink
          November 14, 2009 7:14 am

          The leftist have formed their own corporation. That is how I see it. Using their power over the years, they have swallowed up many private enterprises. A prime example is the passenger rail system. Now, we have them marching forward in the auto industry.

          • F. Swemson permalink
            November 14, 2009 1:33 pm

            Interesting idea…

            When I think about the relationship between the government and GE however, it seems more like they’re a marriage of convenience.

      • Linda in New Jersey permalink
        November 14, 2009 10:23 am

        This country is becoming everything against what america has stood for, when you have masses protesting against the Health Care reform and he gets past, it only shows that government is not listening to the people, when we expose our government intelligent and put out country up for critizen among the Muslum world, what are we doing to our respect of our country. The terriots should be tried like any war criminal, Not as a criminal of the state but as a terroist of our country, they have not respect for life, and we are only showing them we are idiots, They should be put infront of our military system, tried and put to dealth, As it has been in the past, why put such and expense on NYC and security and put the families through this circus,
        This President has his own adgenda, and I hope all who voted for him get what they deserve, but, unfortunitly we are all stuck in the same on the same course. it so frightening to see where this government is taking the american people, and we are sitting by, and letting it happen, there a lot of emails and blogs with people disgusted of what we have to deal with, but how do we make a stand, and tell them we want change, not dictator!!!

      • peachey permalink
        November 14, 2009 12:56 pm

        I have a different take on the Obama czars. They are essentially the brutal, all-powerful lobbyists and shadow cabinet OF this administration. When they reach out and touch someone, it is not necessarily with money, it is with the power of government to force compliance or oblivion. The objective to control or eliminate free-trade is the objective of this “lobby”.The true goal of vilifying business then adding the oppression of the Cap and Trade bill is to eliminate private property rights. The true cause of the Progressive being the equity that can only be achieved through the distribution of wealth,the elimination of independent uncontrolled thought and the belief in a government that serves the people.Our country is under attack from within and without.

        • F. Swemson permalink
          November 14, 2009 1:25 pm


          I understand what you’re trying to say, but I think your terminology is wrong. You can’t use the word “lobbyists” to describe Obama’s czars, because the two words, have opposite meanings.

          Ayn Rand’s definition of the difference between economic and political power, applies perfectly here.

          Lobbyists use positive means (arguments and economic enticements) to get legislators to do what they want)

          Czars use negative means (threats of fines or imprisonment) to get indiciduals and businesses to do what they want.

          The far left has accustomed people to think of lobbyists as being evil. It’s just another part of their “BIG LIE”, which is designed to make us think that profit making businesses, (especially big corporations) are the cause of all of the people’s problems, when in fact it the profit motive behind all businesses that made America the most prosperous nation in the history of human civilization. The words of Dr. Adrian Rogers once again offer the most succinct explanation of all:

          “You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”

          • peachey permalink
            November 14, 2009 3:08 pm

            The definition you site is true, however the folks at AARP, the AMA, SEIU,AFL-CIO, and others were “convinced” with contracts, funds, and the other perks of playing ball with this administration. Whether with money or a baseball bat this administration is getting what it wants. BTW how are you and your family doing? I was looking at some photos of my dad at Ft. Hood and thought of you and others that photographed war. He was one of the first classes to graduate at Ft. Hood (3rd armored).

            • F. Swemson permalink
              November 14, 2009 3:40 pm


              You’re still missing the point of the distinction I made above between economic and political power.

              When our country began to place unconstitutional restrictions on the free enterprise system, back during the industrial revolution, the common pitch heard from leftist politicians back then, which has also been heard by socialists and communists the world over was “what difference does it make to the workers, whether they live under the control of a bureaucrat or under the control of a greedy capitalist” (or words to that effect)

              Of course, as more and more Americans are finally beginning to understand, it makes a huge difference indeed.

              It’s totally legal under the constitution and the rules of the free market, for businesses to use lobbyists to try to get the government to do what they want. They are after all exercising “economic” rather than political power to achieve their ends.

              It’s NOT constitutional however for the government to offer certain individuals or businesses any special favors or incentives in order to help promote the political or ideological ambitions of the bureaucrats, and that’s what the examples you cite above are really all about.

              Once again, they’re two entirely different things, and we must always keep that distinction in mind.

              Thanks for asking about me btw. I’m doing fine. My dad was a grunt during the North African Campaign early in WWII and then later at the invasions of Anzio and Salerno. When I think back to what immigrant kids like my dad went through in order to EARN their rights to the American Dream, and watch our the leftists in charge of our government simply GIVING those rights away just to get more votes, I literally get sick to my stomach.

              I’m sure that you, as well as many others here feel exactly the same way.

              Peace !

  5. old white guy permalink
    November 14, 2009 3:50 am

    it starts to look as if the only free person today is a homeless one.

  6. moonbat5515 permalink
    November 14, 2009 6:05 am

    While I agree that there’s a serious problem with lobbyists, etc., that’s pretty old school. I try never to forget what my late wife and I refered to as ” The Geary Factor”, named for the foolish and arrogant Senator in Godfather 2. After Obama’s speech in 2004, I turned to my wife and said ” There’s our next President”. “Yup”, she said, “God help us”.
    I just KNEW… maybe it’s intuition, or connecting the dots til one has a roadmap- Scumbags R Us, I call it. And the percentage of aware people is very small- I moved to Illinois from N.J. about a year ago. In N.J., I knew perhaps 10 aware people. Here, in a town of 2600, ONE. And there is no neutrality in this fight. Morpheus in the film The Matrix says it perfectly- if a person is ignorant, or willfully ignorant, then they are supporting the opponent BY DEFAULT. I call those people “Furniture”- they’re useful, or they’re in the way. And soon, my friends, trying to educate the sheeple will result not in “You’re *!#*ing crazy”… the response will be ” I’m droppin’ a dime” Can anyone say MIAC?

  7. November 14, 2009 7:00 am

    We need to make sure that future presidents did not spend their formative years in a foreign country, unless one of their parents was posted there by the US Government.

  8. oldwolves permalink
    November 14, 2009 7:29 am

    As a retired NYC police officer I have friends in all levels of the department. Let me tell you, they’re Sh%$#ng bricks. This is whole new level of stupidity for our country. Allready they are talking about the national guard coming in to help with security. Most of the higher ups in the department are outraged at this to the point where one police plaza was in an uproar when this monstrosity was confirmed. There is no way in hell that the PD can secure lower Manhattan. A friend of mine in the FBI tells me there was a burst of chatter on all of the sites they watch for imminent attacks of terror.

    This is just what the terrorist wanted. They have the biggest stage in the world now to get out their message. Two of my friends with over twenty years have vowed to put in their papers and retire. They know whats coming. They were their with me on 911.

    All this was done for one reason and one reason only. To get people off the subject of Obama care and Afghanistan.

    I could almost compare this to Roosevelt saying to the press in early 1941,

    ” We are perfectly safe from the Japanese navy as long as they don’t attack Pearl Harbor!”

    • John Davidson permalink
      November 14, 2009 10:22 am

      Excellent post, sir. The sacrifices law enforcement has made to this society are never demonized by those who appreciate freedom; we only wish our legal system felt the same way.

    • Linda in New Jersey permalink
      November 14, 2009 10:31 am

      how do we stop this insanity?? must impose the Governor and Mayor to put a stop to this

    • F. Swemson permalink
      November 14, 2009 4:00 pm


      I’d be curious to learn what you and others among “New York’s Finest” think about what would happen if Obama tries to subjugate US citizens themselves to his unconstitutional communist ideology.

      For example, in the unlikely event that he gets congress to pass a law enabling the government to confiscate our guns, and your brother officers were given the task of actually taking them from us, would they obey the commands of the federal officials who ordered them to do this, or are they going to side with the people on this, and lock those bastards up for attempting to violate one of our inalienable rights ?

      I’ve asked some friends in the military how they would react if they were ordered to take such actions against American citizens, and they pretty much all indicated that they wouldn’t do it. A few older officers told me they’d definitely resign their commissions, while a few younger special forces types told me that they would probably adopt a more “proactive” stance if that were to happen.

      • oldwolves permalink
        November 14, 2009 5:36 pm

        They would have to make a special ‘task force’. And sadly you would find some officers who have been lured with promotions or desired details fall in line. But I really doubt the union would allow it or it would find it self going against its officers. Officers like my self would have outright rebelled. No, I think the odds are highly against this of happening.

        I’m thinking this is what Obama had in mind when he came up with his ‘National security force’ You know the one that would be just as well trained as our military? Why,When we all ready have a national guard and local police forces? Thats more likely, with so many Obamazombies willing to trade in their souls for hope and change. Hmmm… I wonder if they would get free dry cleaning with their brown shirts?

        • F. Swemson permalink
          November 14, 2009 6:42 pm

          Thanks for your reply:

          Some day I have to tell you about the small war that I went through with some officers in the 13th precinct one day

          • oldwolves permalink
            November 15, 2009 10:43 am

            Why does this not surprise me? LOL

  9. Rhodi permalink
    November 14, 2009 8:24 am

    The greatest enemy of the state right now is our current president. Oops! Am I allowed to say that?

    • John Davidson permalink
      November 14, 2009 10:10 am

      At the moment, yes, in the future, pack your bags for a one way trip to Alaska.

  10. adheeb permalink
    November 14, 2009 8:25 am

    This President truly lacks both good judgment and good advisers. He is in fact, an Angus in a china shop.

    • Cas Balicki permalink
      November 14, 2009 9:00 am

      Uddering truth to power?

  11. Yephora permalink
    November 14, 2009 9:29 am

    “You say you want a revolution . . .”

  12. November 14, 2009 12:53 pm

    Folks, not quite on target with this but I think it’s important enough to break the thread of thought.

    I don’t know how many of you have ever heard of a book called “Why I Am Not A Muslim” but if you haven’t, you should read it.

    The author, Ibn Warraq, has a comment on the Ft. Hood shootings that demands attention. It should be forwarded to news people in all parts of the country. The timing is perfect, what with the 9/11 trials coming up in New York. (Also, keep in mind that Warraq is a cover name for someone who is considered an apostate and under a thread of death at all times. Christopher Hitchens has sheltered both him and Salmon Rushdie both).

    Here’s the link:

    Also keep in mind that at this point, whether or not a person is religious or not, should NOT make a difference. I’m an atheist, for example. But people who have a sincere belief in Christ, are born again, as well as Jews, Mormon’s, Catholics, Baptists, fill in the blank, should unite against Islamic jihad adherents.

    The Quram is explicit. No matter how the politically correct can twist and squirm, it all come back to this: Do Muslims believe the Quram and the Muslim teachings on apostasy, non-muslims and women. ANY yes answer leaves me (at any rate) with no options but opposition.

    TG Browning

  13. victor permalink
    November 14, 2009 3:01 pm

    I am wondering whose side Holder and Obama are on, the terrorists or us. Obama didn’t have the intestinal fortitude to make this shocking announcement and left it to his leftist A.G. who should never have been confirmed, given his prior history. Obama carefully orchestrated the announcement for when he was overseas and on a Friday when he knew there would be substantially less coverage. Shame on both of them. When someone is captured on the battlefield in a war, they are not entitled to civilian protections. Would Eichmann and Goering have been entitled to a jury trial with all the rights and millions of costs? Of course not. This has to be historically the worst decision ever made by any President at any time and it sets a nightmarish precedent. The safety of NYC and our country are now threatened as the retired NYPD officer stated. Obama has already had a terrorist attack on American soil (Ft.Hood) and we are likely to see more.Say what you want about Bush, but we didn’t have a single terror attack after 9/11.

    • John Davidson permalink
      November 14, 2009 4:12 pm

      No, Obama let his boss announce this to the American people. A spokesman he is; a leader he is not.

  14. November 14, 2009 7:27 pm

    Boy Bam will go down in history as the most greenhorn, incompetent and RED POTUS we have ever been unfortunate to endure. His ineptitude due to inexperience became dangerous the day he sat down in the Oval Office. He has an agenda and it is anti White America. As one black lady on Friday’s Glenn Beck show called it . . . plantation politics.

    The Turban Torpedo

  15. antonio norman permalink
    November 15, 2009 5:14 am

    If the trials are held in New York and they get that will assure President Obama will lose in 2010.

    • John Davidson permalink
      November 15, 2009 12:01 pm

      If I were in his shoes, I would remain in Asia.

      His friends in Washington are embarrassing this country, especially the office of the Presidency of which he is suppose to be in charge of!

      A moment of silence, please.

      There, I am back…and God help us, someone…please.

  16. Gamaliel permalink
    November 16, 2009 2:42 am

    This invites terrorists to take hostages in NY in return for the release of Khalid Muhammad and his ilk.

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