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Leftists in Congress Wage War on Catholics

November 14, 2009

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Editor’s note: NewsReal has written recently about the Left’s hostility to Christianity. Michael van der Galien wrote about the attack on Christians on Morning Joe here. Paul Cooper talked about Chris Matthews’ absurd anti-Christian remarks here.

Radical feminist Lynn Woolsey (D-CA) is very upset with the United States Council of Catholic Bishops (USCCB).  The USCCB was very influential in getting the Stupak/Pitts amendment prohibiting federal funding of abortions added to HR3200 (aka “PelosiCare”) this past Saturday.  According to Information and Analysis for Reproductive Health, the amendment:

  • Prohibits individuals who receive the affordability tax credits from purchasing a private insurance plan that covers abortion, despite the fact that a majority of health insurance plans currently cover abortion.
  • Results in a de facto ban on private insurance companies providing abortion coverage in the health insurance exchange, since the vast majority of participants would receive affordability tax credits.
  • Prohibits the public option from providing abortion care, despite the fact that it would be funded through private premium dollars.
  • Stipulates that health plans cannot be mandated to cover abortion, but they can choose to.
  • Stipulates that if a plan chooses to cover abortion, no federal funds can go towards abortion, which is consistent with current federal policy.
  • Ensures state laws regarding abortion coverage are not pre-empted, so if states want to pass further restrictions on abortion coverage, they can. This a significant win for anti-choice organizations.
  • Protects conscience rights of health care providers and facilities.

“Who elected them (e.g., USCCB) the to Congress?” Woolsey asks.  Furthermore,

[t]he role the bishops played in the pushing the Stupak amendment, which unfairly restricts access for low-income women to insurance coverage for abortions, was more than mere advocacy.

They seemed to dictate the finer points of the amendment, and managed to bully members of Congress to vote for added restrictions on a perfectly legal surgical procedure (i.e., abortion).

Woolsey is so incensed by the actions of the USCCB that she wants to revoke the tax exempt status of the church.   These are not the ravings of a no-name Congressional back bencher.  Woolsey is co-chair of the radical Congressional Progressive Caucus, comprising nearly six-dozen of the most leftist members in the U.S. House of Representatives.

More than mere advocacy?  Is opposition to the federal funding of abortion a hate crime now?

26 Comments
  1. John Davidson permalink
    November 14, 2009 12:13 pm

    It looks like the lefties think they are invincible; shall we pop that balloon, together.

  2. Rhodi permalink
    November 14, 2009 12:44 pm

    Nasty old hag!

  3. November 14, 2009 1:18 pm

    I was thinking that the Repubs had pulled yet another boner by putting in this amendment and getting the house bill passed in the process. Now I’m wondering if maybe it’s really a monkey wrench in the works. It adds some complexity to the Democrat’s strategy and the more screaming it creates the better.

    And I can think of nothing better than the Democrats attacking Catholics. There’s a lot of good Catholics in SoCal just arrived from points south that normally vote left. Keep it up guys, keep it up.

  4. Godless American permalink
    November 14, 2009 6:41 pm

    Stupak won’t last through the Senate. This is defense; the Catholic church has been at war against humanity and free-thought for centuries.

    Good luck popping that balloon. Till then, I’ll be laughing and clapping with joy at each and every push further to the Left.

    • November 15, 2009 5:44 am

      When the frogs come and get you and you croak your last, I pray that you will enjoy the company of Satan as you happy-clappily fry in the fires of eternal damnation.

    • Elaine B permalink
      November 15, 2009 8:58 am

      The intelligent and commonsensical thing is to believe and act on that belief. You lose nothing and gain everything.

      Conversely, if there is a God and you choose not to believe, you stand to lose everything.

      • November 15, 2009 9:40 am

        Elaine,
        Correct me if I’m wrong but it appears you’re articulating the sentiment of “Pascal’s Wager.”

        The problem with the wager is that belief in a theistic God is not a zero-sum game. The choice is not “Do I believe in God or don’t I?” The choice is “If I believe in God (or gods) which one do I believe in?” Because belief in one God requires the rejection of belief in untold numbers of possible other Gods — and this is even within the Christian tradition. If you believed in one version of the Christian God then you’d be rejecting other versions of the Christian God. Across Christianity the character and rules of the god which different Christians embrace is so different that one cannot even really consider them the same god.

        Understand my point here? Not only is the the wager easily taken apart, it’s a logical argument to use to try and convince people to do something which is illogical. Faith is not a logical concept — and that’s not an insult to those of faith. Faith is contradictory and transcendent — our logical maps are inadequate to try and contain it.

    • Jonathan permalink
      November 16, 2009 6:33 am

      Of course you are laughing. The left always feels triumph as America declines. But I don’t understand your choice of name. Godless American? That’s an impossible paradox. Made all the more apparent by your laughter at America’s misfortune.

      Marxists have only been at war with humanity for 150 years. But they’ve done a much better job of killing and depriving in that short amount of time than the Catholic Inquisition did in a much greater expanse of time.

  5. bob permalink
    November 15, 2009 6:21 am

    If your observation is that the tea party protesters are angry, wait until Catholics and their supporters start screaming. They’ll wake up one day and find taxwise that they have the same status as a large corporation. Think massive tax revolt.

  6. Elaine B permalink
    November 15, 2009 8:41 am

    Isn’t it appalling that the most passionate among our elected representatives are those promoting death?

  7. Janet permalink
    November 15, 2009 9:46 am

    If “Godless” is correct and Stupak doesn’t last through the Senate or a comparable amendment isn’t substituted or contained in the Senate Bill itself, there will be no healthcare reform…..period. Fortunately for various reasons, (one’s conscience, fear of retaliation by their constituents, or just plain not liking the murder of babies) there are too many members of Congress who will not tolerate passage of a bill that will permit taxpayer monies to fund such a dispicable act, abortion on demand. If passed it would also lead to the retirement of many Ob/gyn’s who would be mandated to perform such proceedures. And, finally, thousands of Catholic hospitals would close their doors for the same reason. Is that OK with Lynn?

    The Catholic Bishops had not only the right to instruct their members
    on this issue, but the duty, and for too long they’ve been silent. Lobbyists exist in the thousands in the halls of Congress and Lynn Woolsey has a problem with Catholic Bishops attempting to prevent babies from being slaughtered! Really!!!

    • Jonathan permalink
      November 16, 2009 6:37 am

      True Janet. The church has been silent for too long. But I guess we have LBJ’s notorious midnight legislation of 1954 (I think) to thank for that. At any rate, the church needs to get back into the business of speaking up in the pulpit, tax exemption be damned. But the voters need to vote out of office every official that does not support their original right to tax exemption from the original US Code ruling.

      Conservatives need to demand this. They have been muzzled for 55 years in the most important conservative venue imaginable. Gosh, I CANNOT believe we were dumb enough to let LBJ get away with that crap.

  8. jake permalink
    November 15, 2009 10:22 am

    When you read your Bible closely, you see Jesus was a liberal. He’d have voted Democrat.

    • November 15, 2009 1:36 pm

      Jesus stated on several occasions that His Kingdom was not of This World; so how come He’d have voted for any party; He died to allow the godly to enjoy everlasting life with Him in heaven, not to create a liberal or socialist Utopia on earth; Grow up and use the limited intelligence you display to write something sensible, or put your keyboard away with your other toys.

    • Jonathan permalink
      November 16, 2009 6:45 am

      I’ve read the Bible from cover to cover over 80 times in 20 years. I’ve read the New Testament completely at least once a month, and the Old Testament at least once every 3 months, for over 20 years. So I’ve read the NT a total of 240 times at least, and the OT a total of 80 times at least, in the last 20 years.

      So, I am qualified to tell you that Jesus wasn’t a liberal and he definitely wouldn’t have voted Democrat. I’m supposing of course you mean modern-day Democrat, which is Marxist and humanist and completely opposed to Christianity. Marxism violates every one of the 10 commandments. Of course it does. That’s why Marxism views Christianity as it’s number one enemy.

      Really now, you can’t get away with this sort of anti-rational drivel if you are talking to someone who thinks without political correctness.

  9. peachey permalink
    November 15, 2009 12:00 pm

    Jake,
    The Bible that Christians read is not the the communist manifesto bible that you read from. If you want to include Christ in the conversation make an attempt at accuracy and truthfulness. Your statement was a distasteful lack of knowledge of the life of Jesus, and frankly digusting. Attributing a political stance to Jesus without study of His life is something a Media Matters or The Nation junkie would do. Contrary to your belief that Jesus would be a liberal, He would tell you to get off your fat butt and get a job and stop stealing from those that actually contribute. Those that do not work, do not eat. A simple philosophy.

  10. John Davidson permalink
    November 15, 2009 12:10 pm

    Godless has no beliefs, therefore no viable characteristics with which to remain a contributor that improves everyones right to have an opinion of substance, thus gain knowledge.

    • bob permalink
      November 15, 2009 2:11 pm

      Hey, John. How did you get your picture on this blog? You look cool. Yeah, Godless and his friends have convictions, but those convictions state that anything we come up with must be wrong.

  11. chuckwagon2u permalink
    November 15, 2009 12:46 pm

    One of Karl Marx’s most profound statements was,”Those who do not work do not eat!”. It seems his doctrines did not support a WELFARE state as some of the left wingers demand. Marx as a Jewish man understood Hebrew theology enough to get the conscept.

  12. Jonathan permalink
    November 16, 2009 6:29 am

    David,

    I refuse to accept the cultural Marxist dissection of the Christian faith as a reality I must learn to live with. Anymore than I accept Congresswoman Woolsey’s assertion that the Catholic Bishops have no right to lobby and influence their officials just because they are people she doesn’t like. Woolsey is a leftist. It is SHE who has no right being here, although she was given the undeserved privilege of serving my republic. In a more sane time, she never would have been allowed close to Congress. In fact, she would have been tarred and feathered by the Smith Act and the House Subcommittee on UnAmerican Activities.

    Christianity is in disarray in this country, but for no more reason than the fact that they’ve lost their way against the confusing din of cultural Marxism. The way can be found again, and there is only one God in the Bible, and he speaks clearly for those who care to hear.

    American conservatives and Christians will find their way again, once they have suffered enough being drug through the mud of humiliation and deprivation.

  13. Godless American permalink
    November 16, 2009 11:00 pm

    Oh, you’ve read the Bible over 240 times? Then you’re familiar with these quotes from your beloved fictional character:

    Peacemaking, not War Making: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] Resist
    not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39] I say unto you, Love your
    enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute
    you; [Matthew 5:44]

    The Death Penalty: Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21]

    Crime and Punishment: If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to cast a stone at her. [John 8:7] Do not judge, lest
    you too be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to
    you. [Matthew 7:1 & 2.]

    Justice: Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. [Matthew 5:6] Blessed are the
    merciful: for they shall obtain mercy [Matthew 5:7] But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your
    trespasses. [Matthew 6:15]

    Corporate Greed and the Religion of Wealth: In the temple courts [Jesus] found men selling cattle, sheep and doves and other
    sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle;
    he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. [John 2:14 & 15.] Watch out! Be on your guard against
    all kinds of greed; a man’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. [Luke 12.15.] Truly, I say unto you, it will
    be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. [Matthew 19:23] You cannot serve both God and Money. [Matthew 6:24.]

    Paying Taxes & Separation of Church & State: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the
    things that are God’s. [Matthew 22:21]

    Community: Love your neighbor as yourself. .[Matthew 22:39] So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you.
    [Matthew 7:12.] If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
    [Matthew 19:21]

    Equality & Social Programs: But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed,
    because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. [Luke 14:13 &14.]

    Public Prayer & Displays of Faith: And when thou pray, thou shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in
    the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
    But thou, when thou pray, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret…
    [Matthew 6:6 & 7]

    Sounds Liberal to me. You’re right about Democrats, though; most are not Liberals, so Jesus wouldn’t have been a Democrat.

    • Jonathan permalink
      November 17, 2009 2:39 am

      Yes. I’m very very familiar with those verses. Familiar enough to know that you either are being humorous here, or merely betraying a superficial knowledge of Christian theology. I know you leftists well enough to know that you would certainly argue any of those points from the opposite end of the spectrum if it suited you.

      For instance, you certainly would never be above claiming that the Bible is full of violence and rape and imperialism. But that would hardly work NOW as you are trying to make the case that Jesus is a wonderful Democrat and a friend of the abortion industry. Kind of like the sort of flip flopping that goes on with the founding fathers.

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