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Will Abortion Kill ObamaCare? Part 1

November 16, 2009


Our world has changed immensely since the 1970s: computers no longer fill an entire room, we don’t play records with a needle, and we can watch a fetus that weighs less than a few paper clips as her heart beats while she sleeps inside her mother’s womb.

The abortion debate has also changed since the seventies. The original argument was that a woman had the right to her own body. That the child growing within was not a child at all, but a mass of tissue, therefore she had a right to have it removed and no government had the right to tell her otherwise.

Over three decades later, we now argue over the ethics of late term abortion, whether a baby is entitled to medical services if she survives the abortionist’s assault, if a minor’s parents must be notified—and if abortion should be included in a new government health care system.

In a strange twist, under a president who says he would never want his daughters “punished” with a pregnancy, and his presidential clout on the line with a massive health care takeover; the Speaker of the House betrays her radical base after a call from Rome.

Pelosi’s health care bill passed, but the abortion issue could bring a democratic stalemate that defeats it in the end. The stage is set for a defining battle.

Chris Matthews, host of MSNBC’s Hardball, made a rare appearance as a moderate in a segment with Nancy Keenan, President of NARAL Pro-Choice America and Peter Beinart, The Daily Beast.

Beinart hit a very important point:

“Are pro-choice people winning the argument out there in the country? On gay rights you can see that it’s moving in the progressive direction; slowly, not as fast as you’d like. On abortion the public opinion is not moving in the pro-choice direction.”

“Maybe it’s because people take it for granted. They [don’t] remember a world where abortion was [illegal]—maybe it’s because of the technology, and you can see the ultra sounds. For whatever reason, that’s the larger problem.”

Keenan disagreed:

“I think we’ve won the argument. I think most people are pro-choice. I believe that they know very clearly that they don’t want politicians in this decision.”

Then Matthews quickly interjects:

“Then why are we subsidizing it?”

Herein lays the rub and the possible defeat of the health care initiative all together.

The women’s movement that championed abortion in the seventies no longer holds the allegiance of an entire generation, they don’t feel oppressed, they feel no need to burn their bras, and they have grown up in a world of EPT (Early Pregnancy Test) and ultra-sound.

Jill Stanek, a nurse that has dedicated her life to the pro-life movement after she cradled an aborted baby for hours until it died in Christ’s Hospital Chicago IL, agreed with Beinart that technology has played a major part in the debate.

Stanek told NewsReal:

“Not only is the public more informed, but post-abortive women are not coming forward in support of abortion. Instead they are saying that abortion hurt them mentally, physically and emotionally.”

This knowledge combined with a  general public sentiment against government funding of abortion, makes for a hard sell even within the Democrat Party.

After losing ground with the passage of the Stupak amendment, the left are galvanizing a coalition of groups including the  Service Employees International Union,, the American Civil Liberties Union, the Human Rights Campaign and the Center for American Progress and Planned Parenthood.

Speaker Pelosi may have won her first battle by pacifying the pro-life Catholic community, but has she created a war within her own party? Will Christians in general, both Protestant and Catholic be the target of the Left’s fury over the abortion issue in health care and inadvertently kill the initiative with friendly fire?

The stage is set for the abortion issue to make or break the democrat’s health care dream a reality.

  1. John Davidson permalink
    November 16, 2009 11:11 am

    Almost 2000 pages of hogwash should kill this bill, it is full of contradictions writen by a marxist group.

  2. Rhodi permalink
    November 16, 2009 12:42 pm

    The entire bill is a fiasco. So, if the abortion debate is the straw that breaks the camel’s back, and I hope it does, it may be the only thing standing between us and a complete government takeover starting with health “care”.

    I also agree, young women have become more educated about the high emotional and physical repercussions of abortion since the 70’s. And I think too that women of my generation are sick of the narcissism of the Pelosi generation, as we have paid the price having grown up with selfish mothers who traded in their families for money and prestige. We want something better for our children. For we have suffered the loss of what true motherhood offers us at the altar of feminism.

    • November 16, 2009 1:17 pm

      “And I think too that women of my generation are sick of the narcissism of the Pelosi generation, as we have paid the price having grown up with selfish mothers who traded in their families for money and prestige. We want something better for our children. For we have suffered the loss of what true motherhood offers us at the altar of feminism.”

      Well said. I think you are exactly right.

      • John Davidson permalink
        November 16, 2009 3:24 pm

        Have you read some of Dr. Mike Adams articles, especially the one entitled, “A Generation of Sociophaths”? I’ve felt this way for a very long time as more and more children are given drugs so their parents could make more money and pay more taxes.

  3. Nick Shaw permalink
    November 16, 2009 12:45 pm

    I have to agree with John Davidson, prohibiting funding for abortion, though very important, is small potatoes compared to the scope of the bill. If it can be brought down over abortion, fine, but the public has to wake up! This is not about health care, costs, insurance or whatever is the excuse of the day. It is about power. Pure, simple and naked!

    • November 16, 2009 1:19 pm

      Honestly, I don’t understand why the mandate isn’t the killing point.

      • John Davidson permalink
        November 16, 2009 3:26 pm

        What’s the ACLU’s position regarding abortion?

  4. Julianne permalink
    November 16, 2009 5:46 pm

    I think the salient point is that public funding for abortions is a divisive and controversial proposal even in the Democratic Party. It is offensive even to many people who call themselves pro-choice. And the shameless way that the Death-Eater Wing wants to push this through, regardless of the consciences of so many of their colleagues and constituents, has become emblematic of the even larger issue: the sheer ugliness of tyranny.

    “We will do what you abhor to the bottom of your soul; we will do it a million times; and we will make you pay for it.”

    Let the fetus — poor little naked bastard — become the image of all that is fragile and precious and, ultimately, worth defending. Those who surprise themselves by defending Life, will fight tyranny at every level.

  5. weaverrose permalink
    November 16, 2009 9:04 pm

    I was heartened to hear Nancy Keenan (NARAL) tell Chris Matthews that she regards as early stage strategy the compromise language rejecting federal funding for insurance plans that cover abortion. I was initially appalled by the undercutting of what I believe is a woman’s right to abortion, but at the same time getting health care reform through Congress is important. Keenan’s cool headedness gives me hope.

    • November 17, 2009 6:59 am

      Weaverrose: you are one sick creature – a perfect candidate for a euthanasia procedure also envisaged by the health care advocates.

  6. coolmom9 permalink
    November 17, 2009 6:57 am

    She lost me when she said she thought Pelosi was smart!

    Then she goes on to say the health care choice of abortion should be between a woman and her doctor. Yet she supports this healthcare bill which injects the gov’t into every level of every medical decision.

    C’mon lady, you can’t have it both ways!

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