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From the Pen of David Horowitz: November 21, 2009

November 21, 2009

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Chambers was right, however, in the sense that Communists and Fascists betrayed the actual institutions they lived under in the name of an abstraction, whereas the others had not. Benedict Arnold and other loyalists to the Crown acted to preserve the system they lived under. So did the American founders who fought to defend what they considered “the rights of Englishmen,” which they believed the Crown had denied them. They fought for a reality they knew, while invoking abstract ideals to justify their rebellion and to articulate the principles they for the most part lived by. But Communists and Fascists were not defending any reality. Like contemporary radicals, they were motivated by an abstraction – the vision of a future that did not exist and had never existed, but which they were convinced they could create.

It is this abstraction, this monde ideal that accounts for the otherwise incomprehensible fact that for Communists “the future is more real than the present.” The belief in this “reality” is why radicals discount the apparent privileges, freedoms and benefits of the actual world they live in. Their eyes are fixed on the revolutionary future that is perfect and just. Measured by this impossible standard, any actually existing society – including America’s — is easily found deficient, even to the point where it is worthy of destruction.

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19 Comments
  1. j c original permalink
    November 21, 2009 4:59 am

    motivated by an abstraction–Communist/Fascists–not a reality.
    I will remember this article. Thanks

  2. William James Ward permalink
    November 21, 2009 8:35 am

    Interestingly communities of faith appreciate apparent privilages,
    freedoms and benifits of the present, and their eyes are fixed on
    the revolutionary future that is perfect and just. Earlier societies
    living in various forms of slavery to systems that offered them no
    future were justafiably prone to revolution. A serf in Russia had
    a life quite miserable and not comparable to what todays Communists
    live, with exception, if they live in a Communist controled nation.
    In the free world the Communists have it better than if they gain
    governmental control as Communism fails miserably and eletes
    become the new masters and serfs become comrads. The desire to lord
    it over others is probably the greatest human defect. It is wise
    to remember that in all societies mankind is stuck with those
    individuals that will take your life in order to increase their
    own. Only in America has the average person had a better chance at
    a decent life for themselves and family. The destruction of our
    society by any means and for any purpose declares colossal evil
    in the leadership and colossal stupidity in the followers of the act.
    So what! we live in colossal times?

    • valhalla permalink
      November 22, 2009 1:57 am

      “Only in America has the average person had a decent chance for a better life for themselves and family.”

      Really? What about Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and Western Europe? Comparision of various measures of “The Good Life” usually show that other countries are ahead of the USA in health, education, standard of living, longevity, etc.

      This statement is so absurd that it boggles the imagination.

      • William James Ward permalink
        November 22, 2009 9:07 am

        Maybe these places have come along since I have been there but my opinion is that Socialist Westen Europe and Canada have never been a
        match to America. Austrailia and New Zeland have been on a par for
        a long time and in these days of the destruction of our economy
        by leftist eletes it is possible the slide downward will have us
        behind Haiti in a few years. You may have a different experience
        and thus a different opinion. Health, education, standard of living
        and longevity, come on what leftist coolaid have you been drinking.
        Sober up and get out and see all of America and not just the cities
        that have declined and were once great, you may not have been around
        long enough to experience the better America I know. Valhalla when
        you see Thor ask for a tap on the head to loosen up that brain of
        yours.

  3. November 21, 2009 8:39 am

    Just to thank David for bringing to light to a problem I have struggled with for many years regarding the drive so many have in striving for the growth of Communism in what would appear to be a desire for self destruction.

    David’s hypotheses on the abstraction of future utopian government rule helps in understanding the Communist and Fascists self destruction for future unknowns. Now one has to ask, were do the individual start from to encapsulate a belief that can not be found in any past historical ideas or expressed in natural occurring event?

  4. Cate permalink
    November 21, 2009 9:02 am

    Horowitz once again , has hit the nail on the head. “…they were motivated by an abstraction – the vision of a future that did not exist and had never existed, but which they were convinced they could create.” I had been searching for a way to describe them and here it is. Bravo!

  5. November 21, 2009 10:20 am

    Obama is a disciple of Saul Alinsky’s “rules for radicals”. Obama as a young Harvard student associated himself with strudents of like mind, very critical of America and wanting to destroy this country.
    They did not appreciate nor recognize that their education was being financed by thecountry want4ed to bring down! The absurdity of their arguments does not show up until they destroy a good system as ours with all it’s faults. They profess to want to expand socials justice but when it comes down to who gets social justice and who dispenses it they are mute bexause the quality of social justice dispensed under communism and fascism is nothing but pure unaduterated hell for those caight up in it. My prpfessor of English whose children and I spoke english at home just to maintain fluency of languge was “reported” and inside of 24 hours detained and found guilty of subversion and condemned to life in prison! An amazing social justice! The justice presiding over that mochery of a triaal made no sense and was so convaluted that I got sick just listeniong to his diatribe.
    Under those regimes all that is required to get social jistice is to report a person that you over head making a subversive comment……
    When you consider what this army major Hasan said, and what Obama says almost every day they should be relegated to a spocial juistice hearing!

  6. John Davidson permalink
    November 21, 2009 10:54 am

    A diseace follows a certain pattern of behavior and that cannot be disputed, although those afflicted will not admit it. There-in is the revealing factor contained in their insistence to change the subject by making unqualified attacks of a personal nature. In order to understand the narrow mind, one has to have tunnel vision.

  7. canucklehead permalink
    November 21, 2009 11:13 am

    There’s a lot of truth to this… and the radicals always do operate like that. If a collectivist, totalitarian state existed they’d e agitating for something else. It’s kind of a disfunctional existential contrarian nihlism that they operate under and Horowitz understands it well.

    However there is always the pull of a more concrete idea at play – ‘coercive collectivism’.

    That’s not so much a vision of a perfect future – it’s the age old problem of the claim of the group against the individual. How much tax should we pay etc. What should be sacrificed by the individual for the common good.

    The problem is the complete disregard for liberty and the lack of any economic literacy on the part of leftists for whom politics and economics are one and the same. They have no theory of wealth generation – only it’s forcible redistribution at the hands of those who are to judge what is ‘just’… and idiotic idea that presupposes a crime.

    And where equality and freedom clash they always choose equality… except that they don’t really believe in that either. Just coercion.

  8. Steve R permalink
    November 21, 2009 12:05 pm

    “Their eyes are fixed on the revolutionary future that is perfect and just. Measured by this impossible standard, any actually existing society – including America’s — is easily found deficient, even to the point where it is worthy of destruction.”

    And, one should add, therefore justifies any tactic, no matter how low, mean, illegal, vicious, or reprehensible to achieve that impossible end.

    By the way — where has Guido(the Enlightened) got to? Haven’t seen him around here lately, jousting with his poison-tipped rubber saber.
    🙂

  9. Ez4moi permalink
    November 21, 2009 12:31 pm

    Horowitz understands all this as only one may who once was a true believer. Every account of someone who has had second thoughts about their Leftist convictions is a fascinated read for me. Horowitz explains it so well.

    Nevertheless that someone may believe it seems still so strange. Then, the same person’s subsequent journey out of it accompanied by all the unraveling that must be done is very interesting.

  10. guest permalink
    November 21, 2009 12:38 pm

    Alright here it is my big moment. I am really going to tell everyone what I believe.

    To an extent, yes, you can call me a “commonist” because I believe the truth George Orwell wrote, “some pigs are more equal than others and thus get sent to the pork chop factory.” There. I said it.

    However, to deserve that equality worthy of the butchers block, you have to be of the utmost utilitarian evil. I get it, okay. People kill people, but sometimes that is because they have accidentally summoned the practical monsters from the abyss and just cannot stop themselves from killing.

    It is not that fascists love the institutions, but it as if the institutions reach a critical mass under fascist societies which is run by a two headed monster. For evil Hitler, there was a hidden Reyhard Heydrich who not only built death camps, but made the death camps run at a genius efficiency worthy of Beethoven or Mozart’s genius. It as if Walt Disney built a country modeled after not just bad, but really bad borderline-narcissist human pairings.

    However you know what really screws up fascist societies? Not the Yippie movement, but wrongheaded do-gooders. The theoretical “evil homers” who can somehow pollute Hitler. The Art of Warfare boils down to one thing and one thing only: Whoever can summon the most druids from the woods while at the same time bogging the other sides champion down in the largest suit of armor and then smashing them with the biggest amalgam of rocks and sticks win, period. It wasn’t the Jew’s ideas that destroyed western society, but Einsteins theoretical poisoned apple bestowed from above.

  11. November 21, 2009 2:30 pm

    This is David’s best stuff. Powerful food for thought. We’re flooded with remembrance of evils from history: Plato and all the “idealist” philosophers who did not like this life and this earth, i.e., reality, and demanded that men live for a non-existent utopia of the future. We see the same mind-set in Islam: freedom of any kind MUST be prevented or destroyed in this life if we are to attain the heavenly utopia of the next life.
    The socialists in our government plow on blindly, in spite of the catastrophic failure of socialism both in theory and in practice in the past 100 years. Utopian thinking blots out the facts of reality, the contradictions that pound them in the head, the loss of freedoms… jd

  12. November 21, 2009 4:10 pm

    Ask Obamao if he would like to live in China or Russia (please say yes)

  13. elaine schiff permalink
    November 21, 2009 4:22 pm

    what I seem to find is-those who feel as if society has not given them -money or recognition-fame-respect-pick one or all. So they blame our way of life, if they were in charge it would all change. So we know nothings have to listen to them, and obey them.
    You have to many people, abort them, deny them life saving medical care-if they are too young (under 15) too old (over 40)-keep them on edge-flue-fear of climate change -etc. etc some game plan.

  14. November 21, 2009 11:33 pm

    the makeup of the human mind is indeed fascinating.i see people as being born with intrinsic traits(instincts?,emotions?,thought patterns?,take your choice of words.)could it be in there upbringing which causes them to be so easily blinsided by these ficticious ideas? is it part pavlovs dogs part hitlers the big lie part who knows what which causes this nearsightedness?when i speak at times with some of my liberal upper west side friends on these mattersit seems amazing to me that folks who are otherwise coherant and logical and so on inmost things when it comes to there complete trust in these false concepts there’s nobody at home to converse with. could it be as we could say in brooklyn they just are missing balls of the spirit?

  15. Marylou permalink
    November 22, 2009 1:05 am

    I remember it well. I was an airhead.

    We just made it up as we went, matching it all up with our intangible ideals. We thought we knew everything. We were so morally superior, too, at least in our own minds. We knew what was right for everyone, and anyone who did not agree was — well, just no good somehow.

    I am glad this is being revealed. Though I lived through it myself (before my change), I couldn’t really recognize it from the inside of the movement. I was totally given over to getting this supposedly great work done, highly motivated and very dedicated…couldn’t see much of anything good about this wonderful country, though deep in my heart I knew better.

    I am forever grateful to have had a turn-around.

    Hard to believe how much in that space I was!!

    I still marvel at the liberal-mind bubble.

  16. November 22, 2009 6:26 am

    This comment by David Horowitz is a deep understanding of communistic mindsets. We owe it David’s past intimacy with that mindset. Others could not have understood it.

    Recently, a friend told me that in his view, the most dangerous ideologies/religions are those based on promises for an afterlife, referring mianly to islam and to some extent christianity. David’s comment on communism/fascism shows an affinity with islam that is bot deep and not trivially apparent. In my view, this comment is a major step into understanding what is happening now. A war between those who relinquish any link to reality (whoever they are, not necessarily muslims or communists), and others.

    Congratulations for this great intellectual contribution.

  17. November 22, 2009 3:30 pm

    From the Communist Manifesto: “In bourgeois society, therefore, the past dominates the present; in Communist society, the present dominates the past.” Hence the radicals’ sense of being able to remake … everything. And not just a sense, but an imperative, to which all evidence, objection, opposition is unthinkable, unadmissible, enemy. A more contemporary rendering is “Another world is possible.” Also the impetus to create a “green” energy/technology/economy.

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