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Sunday Comment of the Day: Pursuing Holiness and Understanding God

November 29, 2009

I tend to find myself agreeing with Nick’s commentary on the nature of God and how to pursue holiness. He left it on today’s David Horowitz Quote of the Day:

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The most challenging of these questions emerge when after one agrees to seek, he considers the Nature of God. Is God an impersonal spirit of “order” in the universe? Or is God more? Is there a God personal to me with Whom I can have a relationship?

Here is where people begin to bristle. You will see it. Many get angry at the mere suggestion. They are lost kids, who think they know.

“We don’t know one millionth of a percent of anything.”
– Thomas Edison

If there is an all knowing God, would he/she/it make it impossible for him/her/it to be known by His/Her creations? That makes little sense.

I submit that all is mere speculation and cannot be proved intellectually. Searching for God with the intellect is like searching for the sun with a flashlight.

God must and can be “experienced” through a 6th sense that He installed in all of us. That sense becomes atrophied due to lack of use just like our others. Therefore, we must exercise – practice.

We know God through INPIRATION only. Inspiration literally means “God Breathed.” In-Spirit-ation. Through our vital 6th sense. We are not whole with merely 5 senses.

“Be still and know that I am God.”

It is through stillness of the mind body and emotions that we are Inspired which is where all true creativity comes – through God.

The mind, body, and emotions CANNOT be still whn they contain certain things, such as lies (dishonesties), selfishness, fear, and anger. This is the problem of ours and every generation. We do not know how to rid ourselves of these things, and in today’s world, some our encourages and celebrated. This is an evil. To encourage blocking of the spirit.

When a person successfully empties these obstructions from his self, there is temporarily no ego (self) that blocks him from union with God.

Ego is the conscious feeling of separation from.

We are not separate, but all connected. We are a part of evrythingness. Our ego insists we are different, unique, and separate.

This is the great lie of the ego.

People wrongly think they must get good to get God, but instead we must get God to do good.

The Truth, which will indeed set us Free, is that we are One with God and the Uni-(One)-verse. There is no separation other than our perception.

Interestingly, from the Anglo word “Hal” these other words are derived”

HALLOW
HALLOWED
HAIL
HEAL
HEALTH
WHOLE
WHOLENESS
HOLY
HOLINESS

May we all find our path that leads us Home.

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18 Comments
  1. politicalmoxie permalink
    November 29, 2009 6:01 pm

    Do deep, so advanced one has to read and reread this comment.

  2. ant permalink
    November 29, 2009 6:58 pm

    I’ve been told that the message “do not fear” and “do not worry” are frequent messages in the Bible probably in other holy books as well. Fear and worry,IMHO, maybe the main block to our spiritual searching, even more than the distractions of society and the world. But how does one extinguish fear without the faith that you understand , at least a little, about the nature of God? I mean does someone have to make that leap before they can strive to reach a more spiritual nature?

    • Peachey permalink
      November 30, 2009 12:22 pm

      Ant,
      I encourage you to speak with a pastor and re-new your definition of “fear”. In the Bible, it takes on a meaning different from our word of “fear”. You can hold on to the truth that when you put yourself in the hands of the Lord, that you need not “fear” outcomes. When the Bible speaks of fearing the Lord, you can easily interpret that as only meaning to be afraid, but it also means to be in reverence of the Lord and His might. It is a comfort to me to know that the might of G_d holds me and is there for me. As a human with many frailties, it is a constant struggle for me to surrender to the will of G_d and His word. As a follower of Jesus I do not hold to the “spiritual” or “religious” doctrines that you see in many religions. I hold to the promise of eternal life through Jesus. This does not involve religious rituals or a spiritual quest through following a certain “path”. There is only “a way” to G_d through Jesus, never a path with bonus/brownie points for achieving or passing certain milestones or rituals. This path is what I define as a “spiritual” journey as proposed by many today that totally miss the Word of G_d. Pick up your Bible and read. If you need help, join a study group that will help you. I use the New Living Translation Life Application Study Bible. This is not the exact translation of the King James, but is very close using phrases and words that we use daily. Study, your answer is there. I promise you. Good Luck to you.Surrendering your life to Jesus is the most difficult and the greatest decision you will ever make.

  3. Cynthia Lauren permalink
    November 29, 2009 8:41 pm

    I submit this for ‘Personal Research’ by the intellectual peers on this great web site and for Nick for writing great words…

    Almost 20 years ago, in fact ~ on the evening of August 6th-7th (at 3am) 1990 ~
    I had ‘an experience’ I’d like to share that clarified my ‘Thoughts about God’ and forever made Him a ‘personal God’ rather than merely my ‘intellectual conundrum’.

    I used to be a backup singer and worked with Arnie Rosenburg (Recording Connection, Beachwood Ohio in the late 70’s). I was a ‘typical intellectual’ of the 70’s & 80’s… believed I would make ‘great Jew’ ’cause I believed in God, but didn’t know who this ‘Jesus guy’ was. Without going into graphic detail ~ rest assured, I was thoroughly immersed in the spiritual bankruptcy of ‘this World’. ‘The chief of sinners’ I believe St. Paul would say ~ yeah. Sad to say ~ that was me. And, I was pretty smart, to boot, so my intellect gave way to pride and no one could tell me ANYTHING about ANYTHING that I wouldn’t question to the nth degree. So, there I was ~ a typical cocky 32 year old ~ and ~ life was simply ‘killing me softly’ so to speak.

    As fate would have it ~ one evening, this guy I was dating, from the West Side of Cleveland, called me and BEGGED me for 1/2 hour of my time so that ‘God would leave him alone.’ (THAT fact REALLY had me believing the guy was plain nuts!) But, I finally agreed to allow him 1/2 hour but, not a moment more. (I had better things to do with my time, such as reading ‘New Age literature’ which stated that the frog talked to the deer, talked to the Native American (I was PC, too!) talked to me……. and I was a busy single mom, after all.

    When he arrived at my place in Cleveland Heights it was just ‘getting on evening’ and as I opened the door, I was struck with the literal ‘glow’ around this guy. I wondered how I’d never noticed it before…! I thought to myself ~ “Boy… This guy is wildly handsome in this light…” He looked like you could warm your hands offa his face, frankly… an’ I mused that I must ‘reconsider’ my refusal to continue to date him…but, I digress….

    He came in and began what we’d all call ‘Bible Bashing’ me. Now ~ an interesting fact is that he could say “God” all he wanted and it didn’t effect me a bit. BUT, when he said ‘Jesus’ ~ whenever he said THAT name ~ I simply became incensed. Suffice it to say (because I’ve ALWAYS enjoyed verbal sparring) ~ my rebuttals to his remarks were both incredibly caustic and viciously brutal.

    BUT. The weirdest thing was that each time he mentioned Jesus’s name ~ I ‘felt’ like I was being literally smacked across the face ~ and, needless to say ~ that little fact alone ~ made for a real nasty attitude of mine as I dealt with him…
    A ‘nebulous God’ was okay…but, DON’T GIVE ME A PERSONAL ONE. (THAT, my Dear Friends ~ smacked of accountability to this Guy ~ and I wanted NONE of that…. for ~ IF a ‘personal’ God does truly exist ~ then, I may be personally responsible for not figuring that little fact out…get my meaning??? Our society has taught us ALL to be allergic to accountability and as a (albeit bright) little ‘sheeple’ ~ I loathed anything to do with not ‘passing the buck’… But, my point IS coming…I promise….

    I opened my front door and gave him the ‘polite’ shove out of it because his time was UP (mine, I suppose was ALMOST up…I say now in hindsight) and as I began closing it ~ he said: ‘Cindy ~ now that I’ve told you what God wanted me to say ~ chances are that ‘the Adversary’ (WHO???!!! I jeeringly mocked) is going to come and really hassle you. But, just remember that Jesus loves you and he shed his blood for you and if you EVER get ‘fearful’ just call out for him ’cause he died for you and wants to save you.’ With those ‘little gems’ I unceremoniously slammed the huge front door right in his little ‘Bible Basher’ face.

    Well, at least he was finally gone. ~ words alone can’t address my disdain for each one of his words aimed at me. I bolted the front door in a smug satisfaction and leaned against it as I said my first “dare/prayer” to this impersonal ‘God of our universe’.

    Yeah ~ it’s true. I basically got ‘in his face’ and I was angry, I was hostile and I was above all, provoked that such a ‘God’ could dare be called one IF he knew of all the heartache and terror in our world ~ and that’s right, especially ~ in mine.

    I told him that IF he was God…THEN he ‘knew’ what I’d gone through in the past 32 years of life on this planet ~ and that since he ‘was’ God ~ he’d KNOW that after tons of hurt, I’d not trust another living soul on this planet. SO! “IF” THE **** that the ‘glowing guy’ just said was TRUE ~ THEN, HE’D have to give me a ‘one on one’ with Him (ps ~ DO NOT try this at home or in ANY OTHER place! ~ I don’t EVER recommend ANY OF YOU DOING THIS, ever.)

    With that ~ the past 1/2 hour of ‘drama’ was gleefully over. I was ‘alone again’ (yes. Naturally, Gilbert…what DID we listen to and get ‘programmed by’???!!!)

    I made a salad for my dinner ~ called a few girlfriends to chat ~ and got ready for bed at about 1030pm. (The night was pleasant, a balmy breeze wafted through the red brick second story window of my bedroom) and ~ my friends??? At EXACTLY 3am (I had a neat new digital clock by my bed) I woke to, to ~ well…………… I won’t say WHAT I woke to………………. BUT, please allow me to say that NO DRUGS OR NO ALCOHOL, et al…were EVER involved. I was straight. I was totally horrifyingly and irreparably straight and terrified beyond words at the circumstances in which I found myself….

    As a direct result ~ I believe I finally submitted my intellect to God’s sovereignty. I said: (this is verbatim, I will NEVER EVER forget these words in my lifetime) I said ~ (as I looked up at my waffle-board ceiling in my cute 2nd story bedroom on St. Albans Street) ~ “JESUS! ~ IF you’re up there, I need a Savior RIGHT NOW!!!”

    and………dear friends……………. the rest of the Story? It’s HIStory….and…thrillingly mine.

    On that ‘Warm August Night’ (sorry Neil, it was just ‘warm’ not ‘hot’) in 1990, a 32 year old spoiled rotten Cotillion Debutante from Pepper Pike, Ohio who loved buzzing around the flats with her British Racing Green Fiat Spider convertible while listening to Pablo Cruse’s ‘Atlanta June’ became a TRUE believer in Jesus Christ….NOT BECAUSE I was ‘BIBLE BASHED’ but, because I was a ‘nice little rich girl’ in the USA being literally and sincerely DRAGGED TO HELL and there was NOTHING ~ not ONE SINGLE THING I could do about it.

    TILL, that is ~ I screamed out for Jesus, IF he was ‘up there’ like the ‘glowing guy’ said………….

    So ~ This philosopher, this Hawkin/Orange High School/Harvard Square intellectual actually came to what is called a ‘saving knowledge’ of my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Plain an’ Simple guys. He saved me from going to Hell. HOW He did that is MY BUSINESS. The fact that we’re discussing the attributes of this nebulous ‘god of the universe’ is the reason I am compelled to share with you that until each one of you (yes ~ peers of mine who I admire) comes to the proverbial ‘end of your intellectual/spiritual rope’ (like I did) and calls out for Him by Name and He saves you (literally from yourself ~ as He saved me….)

    Well……… then, and ONLY THEN, can you say with me ~ that you have a personal knowledge of who he truly is.

    I hope you’ll print this, David… I wrote this especially for ‘The Davids’ as I call you guys……… God bless You, Dear. An’ we are battling with Malcom Turnbull’s obsession with the globalist warming agenda today, so I gotta run!

    Lifting you up in prayer, David(s)~

    Cindy Thorpe in SA, AU

    At the end of his 1/2 hour, I showed him the door.

  4. IceStar permalink
    November 29, 2009 9:32 pm

    Take a look at Why God Won’t Go Away, Brain Science And The Biology Of Belief, by Andrew Newberg, Eugene D’Aquili, and Vince Rause.

    Joseph Campbell ‘s Masks of God series on comparative mythology are also enlightening. They describe humanity’s search for the Divine, though he misses the mark when he talks about the feminine search.

    I find the above quote interesting, but incomplete.

    In my opinion a spiritual search is a personal one that cannot be taught or experienced by anyone but the one searching. It, the spiritual path is a singular one like death, it is something that is experienced by the individual.

    Who defines “God” or “Goddess”? If one believes what someone else says, then you believe a version of Deity that is defined by another ‘s perception.

    I long ago rejected organized religion for those among other reasons.

  5. Marylou permalink
    November 29, 2009 11:54 pm

    Nick C,

    Very enjoyable article.

    Thanks, Marylou

  6. oldwolves permalink
    November 30, 2009 4:59 am

    God does exist in spite of man. All we could come up with is religion. And a half dozen ism’s. Maybe God hopes we’ll figure out how we can grow up.

  7. Charles Strahan permalink
    November 30, 2009 6:49 am

    I do like the comments on the holiness of God!
    We as humans tend to place anthropomorphic ideals on our creator, as such we lean to the thought that he is a little old man sitting on a throne with a long flowing beard etc. This is the farthest from the truth. Christ stated that God is a Spirit and as such must be worshipped in Spirit and in truth.
    The best way that I have ever found to describe a God who is limitless in our perception.. if one were to view God as a vast expanse of White
    with one little flyspeck of creation in the center, then he would see God as that which not only created a universe and everything in it, but also is that binding force which holds and contains life and creation in its very fabric.
    Man does not and cannot have all the answers, we argue about the existence of God and creation, whether we come from monkeys or God
    and it all comes down to what do we want to serve the deification of man and his abilities, or an eternal creator who is sovereign, and has place checks and balances in creation that we must and are expected to live by.
    We as humans fail in the sense of realizing that order comes from
    rules and set precepts………. we just are to stubborn or rebellious to accept this fact …
    Even monopoly has rules that enable you to win the game, but if you go on the wrong path you go straight to jail , you do not pass go, you wil not collect $200 dollars. even so this life we live is what the Creator of heaven and earth has given us What we make of it is up to us . We will either worship him and draw close to him, or we will continue to do as we have, draw away from him, and the more we draw away the further our society as a whole is on a hadlong rus to destruction…….we tend to call that which is good evil and that which is evil good, in this regard we need to remember one simple rule
    If God is taken out of our daily walk and life, (this includes morals of course) then we are left with a vacuum if you will. Then when there is no God there is no Good, the abscence of good equals the abscence of God in a society………. and that society turns to Evil. WE see this occurring in our own society daily, in respect to murders, pedophiles, mans inhumanity to man and the manner in which he deals with his fellow man daily.

  8. themadjewess permalink
    November 30, 2009 8:15 am

    I believe it is EXCELLENT that this forum/news-site has the guts to mention God! BRAVA!! We need GOD back in this nation again, so terribly. Thank you all so much, this made my day!!! Shalom!!

  9. Rhodi permalink
    November 30, 2009 9:51 am

    Loved all of your thoughts–especially yours Cynthia. Reminds me my mother’s experience. As for your question Ant, fear is the opposite of faith. It cripples us and prevents us from seeking and putting all of our ‘cards on the table’ with God, if you know what I mean. Believing is seeing, not the other way around. There is a point where you must take that giant leap and believe that God will catch you. At the same time, a personal an omniscient God knows your fears and is not deterred by them. The Creator made us as we are and knows every intimate detail about us, more clearly than we understand them ourselves. So we can make our fears stand before Him and we can ASK for the faith we need to believe. A selfish god would never be so extravagant with His children; as we clearly see through the intricate beauty and generosity of all of creation, we cannot help but see a generous God.

  10. Tom permalink
    November 30, 2009 10:26 am

    CYNTHIA
    ALL I CAN ADD IS THANK YOU JESUS. I MORE FOR THE KINGDOM!!!!!

  11. November 30, 2009 3:15 pm

    We do not find Jesus, rather He finds us as a good shepherd would look for one of His lost sheep. God is the author and finisher of our faith. This is what separates the Christian faith from all others. The Holy Spirit works supernaturally to change our hearts. God does not reason with us. He doesn’t coerce us. He loves us unconditionally, no matter what. The difference is the personal response that we choose to make. I was once a rebel, hating God. As my philosophical and intellectual struggles became increasingly futile, I let go and landed in God’s lap. Funny how that works sometimes. It is a mystery I shall never understand.

  12. Gunnar permalink
    November 30, 2009 5:22 pm

    I am on vacation from seeking God. I got a little tired and confused by it. I reckon I’ll recommence one of these days. Cheerio!

    • December 3, 2009 7:28 am

      Ahhh Gunner, you don’t need to seek God. Be still and he will find you.

  13. November 30, 2009 7:28 pm

    Religion is the best man can do, Jesus Christ is the best God can do.
    You will either be offended by it, stumbled by it or be saved by it.

  14. J. Raketti permalink
    December 2, 2009 9:37 pm

    Sin, to this writer, is defined as self-indulgence. It is by the surrender of self that G-d take’s the steering wheel and Abundant Life begins.

    • December 3, 2009 8:00 am

      J, I find myself agreeing with your first statement and opposed to your second. God created you and loves you as an individual – a “self” so to speak. I don’t think it is a matter of surrender of self, for why then would Jesus tell us that God knows and loves each of us as individuals? Why would God exhort us to let our own light shine among men in order to glorify Him? I think it is more a matter of God asking us to fulfill our true “self.”

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